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Falcon095 said:
coolestguyever said:
JEDE3 said:
It's ashame... they must be crap devs if they are the only ones having trouble anymore.


Exactly what I was going to say. I thought that arguement/excuse died in 2007 when Modern Warfare, Assassin's Creed, etc. released on PS3 and were as good as the 360 versions. I guess they are the only devs still complaining.

I will repeat this because i'll pretend that you just posted without reading the other posts

1- Valve has as much problems to port their games as other companies, but they decided to not do it. It isn't because they're lazy or because they can't, it's because they don't WANT to do it.

2- Valve is mainly a PC developer so they don't have need to port their games to every console. Porting the games to the X360 is easy so they choose to do it as a bonus.


You don't need to pretend I didn't read the other posts, I didn't.

Anyways it doesn't bother my they choose to take the easy route and develop for 360 and PC. I have both a PC (obviously) and a 360 so I could buy their games if I wanted. I just don't find their games that great anyways, Half life was real good but Left 4 dead was a pretty basic FPS.



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kungfusqurrel said:
hmm let me see, should i buy a bmw to drive to walmart to buy milk or should i just get a honda? valve-we'll get the honda with vtec power! saves gas, saves money$ looks just as good, sells more worldwide, perfect analogy ey? haha

You'd better use Mercedes or Lexus instead of BMW in the comparison: 143CV BMW 118d does 22.2km/l average, while comparable 140CV Honda Civic 2.2 i-CDTi does a good, but worse anyway, 19.6km/l (averages calculated as set by EU regulations for vehicles homologation). And BMW engine complies with newer and stricter Euro 5 for emissions, while Honda one is still only Euro 4. Oh, yes, I'm talking about diesel engines, but latest gasoline engines still have BMW ranking better than Honda for fuel economy, excluded hybrid gasoline-electric Hondas.  



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kungfusqurrel said:
hmm let me see, should i buy a bmw to drive to walmart to buy milk or should i just get a honda? valve-we'll get the honda with vtec power! saves gas, saves money$ looks just as good, sells more worldwide, perfect analogy ey? haha

As a car guy, I feel compelled to say your analogy is beyond terrible.  This is more like Lotus saying, "We're going to make a car with only on-the-track performance in mind."  Then, this forum responds by saying, "You're just being lazy!  You should make it a track god and a perfect daily driver.  REAL companies don't have to sacrifice any performance to do it, either."



Actually, I'd say it's more like Saleen not making a right hand drive car because they don't want to distract their engineers and don't think the market is viable.




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rocketpig said:
Actually, I'd say it's more like Saleen not making a right hand drive car because they don't want to distract their engineers and don't think the market is viable.

In some respects, yes.  The situation more directly translates (porting something to another format for increased sales), but I think my analogy gets at the heart of the issue more.  There'd actually be a market for a more DD friendly Lotus (see: Evora), but whether there'd be many RHD Saleen sales is questionable.  Likewise, L4D2 would probably sell pretty decently on the PS3.  Also, the amount of work involved in making something like making an Elise more DD friendly more closely resembles the amount of work necessary to port L4D2, in my opinion.  But, whatever, they're both pretty good analogies.



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I think from now on every single PS3 exclusive thread will have someone say that the developers were lazy. You should have been prepared for unforeseen consequences.



Tease.

I don't see the problem here. Valve is still first and foremost a PC developer, and has a heavily vested interest in that platform.

Valve has realized that porting their games to the x360 simply makes good business sense. It's similar enough to the PC to make porting relatively easy, and pushes enough software to make their minimal porting effort worthwhile. I'd also expect there to be very little overlap between x360 and pc gamers, so Valve is reaching a large audience without going through the hassle of developing for the ps3. For Valve, the ps3 is neither easy to port to, nor does it push enough software for them to consider it worthwhile.



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Squilliam said:
I think from now on every single PS3 exclusive thread will have someone say that the developers were lazy. You should have been prepared for unforeseen consequences.

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Valve's just not PS or Sony fans, that's all there is to it. In addition, they like the ease of PC like developing, and not something new and totally out of their realms of perception.




               

                  

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