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Million said:
NJ5 said:
@jcp234: They only have the resources to compete in the gaming industry if:

a- The economy gets better; or
b- The rest of the company suffers for the sake of the gaming division.

Na I disagree there's plenty other factors would could affect their success.

 

Such as?

I'm talking about something so significant that allows them to spend a lot more money on PS3 price cuts, moneyhats and whatnot.

 



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vitoaf27 said:
SlorgNet said:

This is pure rentier idiocy. Total losses are under 1% of annual sales, far less than many other companies, despite the depth of the recession. Sony doesn't have much debt and has plenty of cash flow, so it doesn't need the extra cash. This notion of giving the money to "shareholders" is a sick joke -- a polite way of saying, forking billions over to a bunch of greedy, self-interested oligarchic scum who don't know a frame-rate from an interest rate, and whose speculative folly screwed up the world-economy so bad, it needed a $4 trillion (and counting) government bailout financed by ordinary taxpayers like you and me.

Here's a better idea: instead of financing the yachts and private jets of Wall Street overlords, Sony does what it always does -- spend money on world-class studios, top-tier technology and great games.


Best post of this thread, by far!

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Sony execs also have many luxury items as well.

lol, this is sarcasm or you didn't read the great replies from jcp and nj on this post.



NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
@jcp234: They only have the resources to compete in the gaming industry if:

a- The economy gets better; or
b- The rest of the company suffers for the sake of the gaming division.

c- They finally release a product which has positive margins which people want.

I think their competitors would not allow c to happen.

 

Thats not entirely true IMO. The PS3 mote, Natal and Wii motion+ are finally showing the three console makers going for different approaches. That means that they have a chance to find a profitable segment of the market and have it just to themselves.



Tease.

Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
@jcp234: They only have the resources to compete in the gaming industry if:

a- The economy gets better; or
b- The rest of the company suffers for the sake of the gaming division.

c- They finally release a product which has positive margins which people want.

I think their competitors would not allow c to happen.

 

Thats not entirely true IMO. The PS3 mote, Natal and Wii motion+ are finally showing the three console makers going for different approaches. That means that they have a chance to find a profitable segment of the market and have it just to themselves.

I don't see any significant difference between Wii MotionPlus and the PS3 mote to tell the truth. The biggest difference is* that PS3's approach includes the EyeToy, and we all know how successful the EyeToy games are.

* Scratch that, the biggest difference is that Wii MotionPlus is out TODAY, so it will have more than enough time to get the market to itself before the PS3 mote and its games ever see the light of day at retail.

 



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NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
@jcp234: They only have the resources to compete in the gaming industry if:

a- The economy gets better; or
b- The rest of the company suffers for the sake of the gaming division.

c- They finally release a product which has positive margins which people want.

I think their competitors would not allow c to happen.

 

Thats not entirely true IMO. The PS3 mote, Natal and Wii motion+ are finally showing the three console makers going for different approaches. That means that they have a chance to find a profitable segment of the market and have it just to themselves.

I don't see any significant difference between Wii MotionPlus and the PS3 mote to tell the truth. The biggest difference is* that PS3's approach includes the EyeToy, and we all know how successful the EyeToy games are.

* Scratch that, the biggest difference is that Wii MotionPlus is out TODAY, so it will have more than enough time to get the market to itself before the PS3 mote and its games ever see the light of day at retail.

 

The differences between the Wii and the PS3 are significant enough that some people will find a better experience on the PS3. Ignoring the stupid media aspects im sure there are those who would prefer the better visual and different gameplay experiences afforded by the PS3s online and computational performance/features.

Since people are buying many consoles to this day, all Sony has to do is keep the PS3 relevant long enough and it will attract sales from people who have not yet at this time bought a console or from people who are upgrading from a PS2 or PS1 or from not gaming at all.



Tease.

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Squilliam said:

The differences between the Wii and the PS3 are significant enough that some people will find a better experience on the PS3. Ignoring the stupid media aspects im sure there are those who would prefer the better visual and different gameplay experiences afforded by the PS3s online and computational performance/features.

Since people are buying many consoles to this day, all Sony has to do is keep the PS3 relevant long enough and it will attract sales from people who have not yet at this time bought a console or from people who are upgrading from a PS2 or PS1 or from not gaming at all.

Wouldn't those be the people who are already choosing the PS3 today?

I mean, sure, if suddenly all the Wii games were available on the PS3 with motion controls, it could work. But that's clearly not gonna happen, and to get the PS3 mote to be widely supported before this gen ends is going to be an uphill battle.

 



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NJ5 said:

Wouldn't those be the people who are already choosing the PS3 today?

I mean, sure, if suddenly all the Wii games were available on the PS3 with motion controls, it could work. But that's clearly not gonna happen, and to get the PS3 mote to be widely supported before this gen ends is going to be an uphill battle.

 

I don't doubt that its going to be an uphill battle. However Sony has paid the price in full for the PS3, I cannot see it getting any worse really. The thing I was alluding to was that the PS3 + Moteye can address a wider spectrum of needs than the PS3 as it exists now.



Tease.

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What are you looking at, nerd?

*Sigh*

SONY shouldn't be selling anything at this point in time -- instead they need to focus on changing there business to be profitable.

1) In the games segment SONY needs to try to make PS3 profitable or at least minimize the losses to under PSP profits. If this means that later this year they cut the price by $50 instead of $100 so be it. (Im hoping the PSP Go is also priced at $250 so SONY can get a much larger profit margin than they get off PSP-3000's). Next generation SONY needs to follow the Wii's example of launching hardware at cost (id be aiming for a $399 PS4 / $199 PSP2)

2) SONY Electronics. SONY needs a budget brand of electronics to sell in order to expand outside its current high-end luxury brands. Also SONY needs to minimize costs, manufacturing plants that arn't being used need to be shutdown(or sold), engineers need to be given better budgets (don't make a $10,000 HDTV if your competitors are charging $7,000).

3) SONY-Erricson needs to be re-invented so it can become profitable again. OR if this cannot be done it needs to be sold off or abandon.

4) SONY as a whole needs to use size to its advantage. iTunes is big but why not launch music/video service integrated into PSP, PS3, SONY VAIO laptops, SONY-erricson phones, hell make a deal with Microsoft to get it to come with Windows 7. The content part is easier, all SONY Music artists songs, SONY Pictures movies and TV shows, etc. If the DRM was handled well and you could download the music / video to listen/watch on any device it then the only thing left to achieve is good marketing (hell offer TV show streams for free, supported by adds, or even movie streams for free supported by adds after the DVD/Blu-ray is released).

5) More -- they can't stop here, they need to keep looking at emerging markets, the world economy, etc to ensure that they can handle the next recession better.



ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
i think selling its movie studios is a great idea to help with their money troubles.

Its like nobody cares about the quality, but just want sony bank rupt..

Wow do you know that Sony pictures is one of the best and biggest movie studios in the world?



 

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