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Hawk on 13 September 2007

Yeah Gelmer, just because the DS is selling better, doesn't mean the PSP isn't successful in it's own right. I have both, and enjoy then equally. But, Zelda has never done that wonderfully in Japan. So I'm still not sure why Zelda PH doing better than past Zelda games in Japan make someone believe the title's sales is declining.



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hunter_alien on 13 September 2007

Well , I dont think that it will reach 1.4 million like OoT ... but rather that that Im speachless ...



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Gelmer on 13 September 2007
hunter_alien said:
Gelmer said:
Hunter_Alien, you should really try not trolling threads on topics you're not familiar with the game or its franchise that's being discussed. Perhaps you should do a little research on the frey of Zelda and see how things work in Japan. All I see is you trying to kid yourself that having two big selling portable games on the PSP somehow makes up for its embarassing software sales and nothing-to-brag-about game library. It was cute of you to try and come in this thread and act as if you'd stolen the show though, lol, but let's face it with Lair down the gutter and Crisis Core comming out what better time for you Sony fans "on the go" to start fluffing your dreams about the PSP actually making a comeback.

Pity these two "best selling evar" games aren't enough to instill faith in the major third party support outside of those already committed to it (Konami & S-E) and Capcom is just going with the flow in regards to Monster Hunter, they've already announced that they've all but abandoned development for the "dissapointing" PSP. It's not about how much money they make on a game they put on the console, its about how much money they've lost on other titles they've tried to put on the handheld. It's a dead fish. And while you're looking at two games that might sell the best this year on the PSP, I'm sorry to inform you that the DS is still beating the pants off it in over all hardware and software sales, and why is that? Ah yes, game selection. The DS doesn't need blockbuster hits to brag about when it has such number, variety and quality of titles. "Oh wait, did he say quality? But I thought the PSP had more quality?" Well I'm sure you Sony fans are fond of equating "less games to more quality per game", not "less games to a failing system".

The PSP is not winning handheld of the year with these titles, its staving off death and at the very least reminding us all that it still exists. Cant' wait for the PSP2, you know, as a cell phone, always wondered why the PSP wasn't more like the N-Gage, lol.

Might I also remind you that the best selling handheld game this year is on the DS, Pokemon. But that doesn't matter now does it, at least not to someone trying to convince themselves the PSP actually has a future.

 Temper , temper . I know that the PSP didnt do far as well as Sony was expecting , but what can I do , I like the system , shoot me if you want . I know that it has no chance of winning the war , not since March 06 at least . Also I find it ironic that on the handheld front among top 3 of this years seller will be 2 PSP titles . Also , I know that the PSP wont win , but will it come back in a batter way ... Im certain of it . I rarely bealive in miracles , and I know that the PSP will be the last one to get one , but just because a system is not selling as good as its rival , It doesnt means its a flop ( who didnt loved the GC ). And untill there are games that sell well like CC and MHF the PSP will not fall out and not die , like that fish your talking about . And what I meant with Zelda , is that its a shame that Nintendos best is selling this weak in Japan , where less quality titles , like Nintendogs are selling out as soon as they hit shelves . Afther passing 20 million the PSP finally made itself a base , just enough for it to survive , and as some analists , I to bealive that the PSP will reach the 60 million one day . Not good software sales ... maybe , but I dont see game announcements stopping for the PSP . Untill Sonys 1st party , EA and a few others support it , well than its fine for me . And yes I am with the opinion that less but batter . As all as I care I could pick 3 games out of my PSP collection and go away for a month just to play and I would , but the DS has no games that I like . Thats all . There is a thing called taste and everyones is different . I like the PSP you like the DS , thats it , but just because the DS is selling batter I schouldent love it . 


 Spellcheck, Spellcheck. It's not a matter of the PSP not selling as good as its rival, its a matter that the PSP is doing abismally in Software sales, is loathed by developers, is plagued by piracy to the near point of utter failure and has single handedly burried a disc format, UMD. 

If hardware sales were the PSP's only issue, then there'd be no issue to discuss. However, that's not the case.

It's not a matter of taste, its a matter of you sregaling us with your naive fanboyism then playing it smug 

when we correct you.  If this was simply a matter of opinion, there would be no matter needing discussed,

now would there?  I assume though by your coiy change of tone in playing the, "everyone is entitled to

their opinion" argument that you're trying to cop out of this argument. Either way, you're welcome to leave

I've made more than an example of you.



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hunter_alien on 13 September 2007

Wow , now did you , BTW sorry for not being a native english guy , and that I dont have all day to spellcheck . I dont want to force on you nothing with my fanboyism , I just hate that whenever we dare to even mention that the mighty DS may find difficult to get interest for a title , we somehow always get to the point that : oh , look at the PSP . Im sick and tired of that . Even though software sales are still bad , interestingly enough they still make games for it , and Sony is still selling its product . To they make as much money as they would want ... certainly not , do I care ... no . As a consumer If Im OK with the product , Il buy it , and I dont care if 10million people bought it or just 1000 . So yes , I CAN an WILL have my own opinion about something ( about the PSP ) , and I will try and proove as much as I can that yes , my opinion is true , just like you or any other fanboy here ... all in all , isnt this site just about fanboy wars ? ( if not than it really tricked me ) .



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Erik Aston on 13 September 2007

Zelda is basically as popular as it ever has been.

Combining the Wii and GC versions, Twilight Princess is in shape to become the most popular Zelda game ever in both Europe and America. The Wii version alone is already #2 ever in Europe, and the combined numbers are closing in on Ocarina. Combined, TP is already #3 in America. The Wii version has the next 5 years to rack up sales and put combined sales ahead of Ocarina in both regions--though that should happen by the end of '08, and the rest will be gravy.

And in Japan, where TP did only okay, PH is picking up the slack. Sales have dipped pretty sharply over the last few weeks, but so have sales for most everything. The game should still cross the million mark this year, and then we'll see if it has legs enough to reach the older Zelda titles next year.



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hunter_alien on 13 September 2007

Umm , thats like a multiplatform release basicly , so not , it does not counts . I bet my head that Zelda PH will never catch OoT during its life ... ever .



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jammy2211 on 13 September 2007

Are people still trying to say PH is selling bad? It's the fastest selling Zelda in Japan EVER, and the dip in sales is very much alligned with the fact that everything else is selling below-par in the same weeks.

I think Nintendo will be delighted with the sales, especially after TP struggled in Japan to have any impact. The sales are a sign the series is raising in popularity and appeal, not falling.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of legs it has though, when stuff like Pokemon and NSMB's are still going strong every week I don't see why Zelda can't do the same.



Erik Aston on 13 September 2007

It's the fastest selling Zelda in Japan EVER,

Uh... Just no.

http://vgchartz.com/japcomp.php?name1=The+Legend+Of+Zelda%3A+Ocarina+Of+Time&name2=The+Legend+of+Zelda%3A+Phantom+Hourglass



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

z64dan on 13 September 2007
Erik Aston said:
It's the fastest selling Zelda in Japan EVER,

Uh... Just no.

http://vgchartz.com/japcomp.php?name1=The+Legend+Of+Zelda%3A+Ocarina+Of+Time&name2=The+Legend+of+Zelda%3A+Phantom+Hourglass


Maybe its got something to do with the fact that Ocarina released during holiday season



reverie on 13 September 2007

God, so many people still don't know how to read this website...? This whole thread is a non-starter. Just listen to Erik and shams.



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