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Kulle said:
lapsed_gamer said:
Kulle said:

Yeah yeah, why are you on this site if you don't trust vgc numbers at all? :)

 

It is a spin because that does not reflect current situation at all. From that, you could get an impression that wii is selling more third party software than the 360 which is not the case at the moment. It is currently selling a little more than 360 did one year ago.

So qos did not sell well because it had bad reviews? So did wii play,carnival games,game party etc and some people say that they are selling.. well anyway, how about madden? sw:tfu? fifa? Some of the latest 360/wii multiplatforms. If you know any current (released within 3 months) games that have sold better on the wii than 360 let me know. Heck, even lego indiana jones is showing better legs on 360 than on the wii. That is surprising! I thought wii was the platformer console of this gen.

 

Really now...

Do you think the official bundle has anything to do with that sudden interest in the game?

 

So are you saying that bundled software should not count? Ok.

 

But it doesn't have anything to do with legs here.

Now you're just provoking.

 



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Kulle said:
lapsed_gamer said:
Kulle said:

Yeah yeah, why are you on this site if you don't trust vgc numbers at all? :)

 

It is a spin because that does not reflect current situation at all. From that, you could get an impression that wii is selling more third party software than the 360 which is not the case at the moment. It is currently selling a little more than 360 did one year ago.

So qos did not sell well because it had bad reviews? So did wii play,carnival games,game party etc and some people say that they are selling.. well anyway, how about madden? sw:tfu? fifa? Some of the latest 360/wii multiplatforms. If you know any current (released within 3 months) games that have sold better on the wii than 360 let me know. Heck, even lego indiana jones is showing better legs on 360 than on the wii. That is surprising! I thought wii was the platformer console of this gen.

 

Really now...

Do you think the official bundle has anything to do with that sudden interest in the game?

 

So are you saying that bundled software should not count? Ok.

 

 

How did I know that was coming?

No, software bundled with the console or a controller should not count.

Calling Guitar Hero, Wii Fit or Mario Kart a "bundle" is laughable.



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All three consoles have healthy attach rates and they all have very healthy software sales. The Wii does just as good as the PS3 if not slightly worse. I don't see how that's not moving software.



DirtyP2002 said:
Leni said:
the Wii, selling software??

let's say Wii Play doesn't count:

Wii Fit: 10m

Mario Kart Wii : 9.5m

Super Smash Bros Brawl: 7.3m

Super Mario Galaxy: 7.3m

Mario and Sonic: 5.8m

Mario Party 8: 5.6m

Zelda: Twilight Princess: 4.9m

No Sony/Ms games on Ps3/Xbox360 sold like this, so it's really stupid to say the Wii doesn't sell software, it does, even during this period, with no big releases!!

Wii games are selling slow and steady, worthy 3rd parties like Resident Evil, Star Wars, Boom Blox, Tales of Symphonia and so on are selling well, i don't think there is a problem!!

also, 2009 is the year of the Wii!!

 

  • Halo3  8.4m
  • Call of Duty4  10.3m (PS360)
  • GTA IV  11m (PS360)
  • Gears of War 5.31m
  • Assassins Creed 6.94m

Well after such a star, what do u think GoW2 might sell?

And the period the Wii isn't selling software is the year 2008 so far... and to be continued? Well the Userbase is like PS3 and Xbox360 combined and the Wii is not selling the software like the PS3 and the XBox360 combined.

 

 

i was mostly talking about 1st party games (as it's obvious that Wii 3rd party support is minor)

only Halo3 managed to sell close to Nintendo 2008 games!!

the others are two consoles combined, and the user base is some millions more,

and the Wii has still more top selling games

 

also, Wii Fit and Mario Kart are still selling more than 150, 000 per week!!

they'll soon crush the GTA IV and Call of Duty 4 on both consoles combined, which is glorious if you ask me

(the perfect game will be beaten)

 

Wii has the two top selling of 2008!! Mario Kart and Wii Fit!!     :  )

(god knows how fat they'll reach)

 

this will teach Ms and Sony that there's no need for a game to have monsters and blood in order to sell!!

 



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Super Smash Bros Brawl: 1161 1357 5188

Mario Kart Wii: 1633 4506 4319

PES 2008: 1633 5820 0347

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I really don't think Wii Sports or Wii Play should be counted when comparing software sales. Wii Sports is bundled so even those who don't want it get it and Wii Play is bought for the controller. I am not saying we should ignore them altogether, just when comparing Wii/PS3/360. I bet without those two Wii would have lowest software sales and tie ratios of all 3 to be completely honest.



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@NintendoMan - I completely agree. I also want to point out that I think the XBox360 moves an enormous amount of software. But people are not saying the XBox360 moves more software than the Wii (a true statement though a kind of dry thread title), they are saying that the Wii doesn't move software (a false but much more interactive thread.)



"You can never jump away from Conclusions. Getting back is not so easy. That's why we're so terribly crowded here."

Canby - The Phantom Tollbooth

Wii Play has to be counted.

Anytime you have the option to go out and buy a game, you need to count it.



Okay, if so, just to be fair, we should ignore all the sales that the following games had when they were bundled : MGS4, Uncharted, LBP, Indiana Jones Lego version, Forza 2, Resistance, Halo, Perfect Dark for the xbox360, Motorstorm (the second game as well, since it will be eventually bundled), pro evolution soccer 2009, GTA4, Fallout 3 (it's bundled in England).

DO you get my point or do i have to spell it out for you?



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You're wrong (unless you think the PS3 doesn't sell software either).

This is from Nintendo's presentation and uses full NPD data. The link provides a lot of usefull information. As you can see the attach rate is remarkably good for a console that sells this fast. So actually the Wii sells loads of software.

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3841/the_mushroom_growth_plan_inside_.php?page=6



You have to have some software out there for it to sell.

Count the number of releases in the past few months with a 75 or higher in metacritic for the 3 platforms. It will be clear that the only reason why the wii has sold less software, is because less quality software has been released for it.

 

The playing field is expected to be more balanced next year.  2010 will likely see it tipping in Wii's favor.