@Zuhyc -- i think its a typo... since they had to make more money off software with Q then Q1 07...
| Zuhyc said: How can overall software go down when the PS3 software had a bigger increase than the decrease of PS2 software? And even the PSP software is rising a bit. PSP: 11.8 million (up 2 million PS3: 22.8 million (up 18.1 million) PS2: 19.3 million (down 11.8 million) |
It looks like those are the total software sales for the platform and not the first/second party software sales ... Sony has been focusing internal development on the PS3 and has cut back on PSP and PS2 development which means that their first party software sales are down across all platforms even though the total software sales across all platforms is up.
| Aprisaiden said: @Zuhyc -- i think its a typo... since they had to make more money off software with Q then Q1 07... |
Not necessarily ...
Sony doesn't calculate their revenues based on the total cost for all games at retail, they calculate their revenues as the ammount of revenue collected from licencing plus the ammount of revenue generated from internal development. If third party software sales increase at the expense of first party software your revenues can decline.
HappySqurriel said:
Not necessarily ... Sony doesn't calculate their revenues based on the total cost for all games at retail, they calculate their revenues as the ammount of revenue collected from licencing plus the ammount of revenue generated from internal development. If third party software sales increase at the expense of first party software your revenues can decline. |
Correct, especially if Sony's deals with third parties include license waiving (as is often rumored). Some of those software sales could (in the limit) count as 0 Yen for their bottom-line, whereas first-party software contributes a lot of revenue.
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HappySqurriel said:
Not necessarily ... Sony doesn't calculate their revenues based on the total cost for all games at retail, they calculate their revenues as the ammount of revenue collected from licencing plus the ammount of revenue generated from internal development. If third party software sales increase at the expense of first party software your revenues can decline. |
Yeah that could be an explanation. However, it's still strange they don't mention that in their report.
| Aprisaiden said: @BKK2 - While Kaz Hirai hasn't addressed when PS3 will use the 45nm CELL IBM has been working on it for a while now. -- An article from Feb. 2008 about 45nm CELL. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080207-ibm-shrinks-cell-to-45nm-cheaper-ps3s-will-follow.html -- Another arictle from Feburary noteing that the 45nm CELL will be used in PS3's late 2008 - early 2009. http://www.fabtech.org/content/view/2469/ |
Yeah, I'm aware that 45nm Cell has been in development for quite a while, but I dont think it will be ready for PS3 this year. I think CY08 Q1 is the most likely quarter for it to be introduced.
I really wouldn't pay much attention to most articles about hardware revisions, the vast majority are totally clueless. Having said that, late 2008/early 2009 was a reasonable estimate in February. Now it's looking like early 2009 is more likely.
Here's an example of ridiculously ignorant reporting:
Sony has once again sent the PlayStation 3 off for testing by the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC), indicating it has a new stock keeping unit (SKU) up its sleeve.
Sony already has a new 80GB PS3 SKU on the way, but the addition of extra storage would not require renewed testing by the FCC, which deals with testing communications technology.
So, it would seem that the version of the PS3 sent off to the FCC must do something new.
It could be that Sony has worked wireless HDTV functionality into the PS3's guts. As SPOnG told you last week, Sony, Hitachi, Motorola, Samsung Electronics and Sharp have got together to make the wireless streaming of HD signal between consumer electronics products (including, of course, the PS3) the new HD standard. This testing could be related to such functionality. Without modification to the PS3 itself, Sony would probably have to stream signal via a plug-in USB device.
Another possibility is the inclusion of built-in digital TV reception for the PS3. Sony already has PlayTV, a TV tuner peripheral, in the works. It could, however, be looking to better compete with Microsoft's expanding multimedia offering by building such functionality right into the PS3's innards.
With the FCC being a U.S. body, of course, there's no guarantee that any modifications to the PS3 will be seen in Europe.
Firstly, AFAIK any change in the electrical properties requires a new evaluation from the FCC, it doesn't necessarily mean the PS3 does anything new, it just means there has been an internal revision of the mobo which the FCC needs to check does not cause any unwanted interference.
Secondly, WHDI standard hasn't even been agreed on yet. So they jump from recent reports about consumer electronic manufacturers meeting to try to agree standards for WHDI to it suddenly being put in PS3 before those standards being agreed upon. What makes it even more ridiculous is that the reson for submitting electronics to the FCC is to ensure that it does not interfere with other devices. The tests they did are in the report; Bluetooth & WIFI. If a new device had WHDI you can be sure that this would be top of the FCC's priorities whilst testing it. This is not just wild speculation, the actual FCC report confirms that there is no WHDI in this model.
Thirdly, this model was submitted with the FCC which is a US body. Play-TV is based on the DVB-T standard which does not exist in North America. This is the reason Play-TV is not being released there. To release a PS3 in NA with a built in DVB-T tuner would be completely pointless.
This is typical of totally ignorant gaming journalism.
Here's another example of totally crap journalism which was picked up by lots of sites and spread as the truth:
Are these "journalists" so stupid as to think that a colour change of the plastic requires a new submission to the FCC? Total morons. What this actually was was the second revision of the 40Gb, CECHH (first one was CECHG), which had already been released in Japan, but was about to be released in US. If it was a white PS3 it would have simply had "CW" (ceramic white) added to the model number and certainly would not have required a new test by the FCC.
Sorry for my rant, but it really irritates me when I see such ignorantly incorrect speculation passed off as "news" by online gaming sites.
Sorry guys but if Nintendo with the Wii practically sold out in many, if not all region, still has a inventory of 500k-1 mil from previous Nintendo fiscal reports vs VGchartz data, then there's no way Sony only has a ~270k inventory stock.
Its overtracked and needs a significant adjustment. You can not argue with data provided directly from the company on official factual documents (vs random executives mouthing off) like financial reports.
Yeah, they pointed out on Kotaku that PS3 and PSP software increased a lot, but was actually completely offset by the lack of PS2 software sold(If I read it right).
I didn't actually try to run the numbers myself, but from reading Shams post, it appears that is exactly what happened.
I think sony is in a planning phase right now, where they are trying to stack the market with Blu-Ray for an anticipated Blu-Ray boom in the next 4 years, where they are the market leader(of players).
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| ZenfoldorVGI said: Yeah, they pointed out on Kotaku that PS3 and PSP software increased a lot, but was actually completely offset by the lack of PS2 software sold(If I read it right). I didn't actually try to run the numbers myself, but from reading Shams post, it appears that is exactly what happened. |
Kotaku? lol, seriously, that site is ridiculous, I really wouldn't advice using that site as a source for factual data.
Anyway, if you don't want to run the numbers yourself, or read the posted ones here they are:
FY07 Q1: 45.6m
FY08 Q1: 53.9m
| darconi said: Sorry guys but if Nintendo with the Wii practically sold out in many, if not all region, still has a inventory of 500k-1 mil from previous Nintendo fiscal reports vs VGchartz data, then there's no way Sony only has a ~270k inventory stock. Its overtracked and needs a significant adjustment. You can not argue with data provided directly from the company on official factual documents (vs random executives mouthing off) like financial reports. |
The wii is in stock in just about all places, maybe select stores acoss the US and some parts of Canada, but most places have more wii's then PS3's and 360's combined. I'm also assuming you missed the thread where a store near MikeB had 300 wii's in stock.
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