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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Switch accomplishes the sweep in the USA in 2019

I feel sorry for people who didnt even gave the Switch a chance to succeed! Amazing work!



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Either way, congrats to Switch on a rare feat.



Nu-13 said:
Over 90% chances or repeating the feat next year (january-october is guaranteed) and decent chance in 2021 too.

There is no way Switch wins every NPD months in 2021. It would mean that PS5 and Series X consoles are going to underperform by a lot, which i don't think they will.



Ryng_Tolu said:
Nu-13 said:
Over 90% chances or repeating the feat next year (january-october is guaranteed) and decent chance in 2021 too.

There is no way Switch wins every NPD months in 2021. It would mean that PS5 and Series X consoles are going to underperform by a lot, which i don't think they will.

They would have to overperfom by a lot to beat the switch in any month of it's first declining year.



barneystinson69 said:
Globally in the US?

It's been a long time since I've heard that phrase XP



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kirby007 said:
sethnintendo said:

Lol did you accidentally fall on keyboard because I'm wondering how you pull such a shitty comment out of your ass.

you dont think a ps5 will sell +-2 million units?

Beyond the fact we have no idea what the PS5 will be, it's very likely for Switch to win in 2020. IIRC, older consoles tend to do better in launch years as the new console is at a higher price point and has fewer games. Nintendo also sells the most in December and November and 2020 will likely beat 2019 in terms of sales. So it could go either way in my opinion. Depends how the games really. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
EricHiggin said:

Not to mention if there was a PS4 handheld that was being counted towards PS4 sales. Combining two separate markets isn't exactly fair if everyone else is pulling from just one market.

Yeah, the "handheld market" isn't really a separate market. They're just gamers like everyone else. It's that kind of silly thinking that leads to people making statements like "Switch is a failure if it doesn't sell as much as the Wii + DS combined". That kind of stuff is just ridiculous.

Plus, if you want to be pedantic about it then one could argue that the PS Vita was essentially a PS4 handheld due to the remote play feature. How many sales exactly did that "add"?

I'm not one who believes that Switch would be a failure if it doesn't match Wii(U)+DS sales combined, but I would certainly say that's certainly a more direct comparison than comparing Switch+Lite vs PS4+Pro. It's more like the arguments of counting XB games/services on PC with XB consoles. Which if you're going to combine all sales related to products in the Switch family, then why not all in the Xbox family? 

I'm not putting Switch or Lite down, I think their success is great. I'm just saying that pointing out they won the year undefeated isn't really an honest point, especially when comparing it to the past where even Nin sales were always separate due to the differing markets. If next year SNY slaps a PS logo on their phones, and ports a couple PS4 games over, do those sales count towards PS4? When those total sales beat Switch sales for at least one month if not more, would that seem honest and fair to take a yearly sweep away from them? I'd say obviously not because a phone is not a console, but a handheld is also not a hybrid or console, which is still up for debate to some.

While this point is mainly moot, then why wasn't Vita combined in the first place? Why does it only make sense to possibly go back and count it now? I thought handheld and console markets weren't separate.



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EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah, the "handheld market" isn't really a separate market. They're just gamers like everyone else. It's that kind of silly thinking that leads to people making statements like "Switch is a failure if it doesn't sell as much as the Wii + DS combined". That kind of stuff is just ridiculous.

Plus, if you want to be pedantic about it then one could argue that the PS Vita was essentially a PS4 handheld due to the remote play feature. How many sales exactly did that "add"?

I'm not one who believes that Switch would be a failure if it doesn't match Wii(U)+DS sales combined, but I would certainly say that's certainly a more direct comparison than comparing Switch+Lite vs PS4+Pro. It's more like the arguments of counting XB games/services on PC with XB consoles. Which if you're going to combine all sales related to products in the Switch family, then why not all in the Xbox family? 

I'm not putting Switch or Lite down, I think their success is great. I'm just saying that pointing out they won the year undefeated isn't really an honest point, especially when comparing it to the past where even Nin sales were always separate due to the differing markets. If next year SNY slaps a PS logo on their phones, and ports a couple PS4 games over, do those sales count towards PS4? When those total sales beat Switch sales for at least one month if not more, would that seem honest and fair to take a yearly sweep away from them? I'd say obviously not because a phone is not a console, but a handheld is also not a hybrid or console, which is still up for debate to some.

While this point is mainly moot, then why wasn't Vita combined in the first place? Why does it only make sense to possibly go back and count it now? I thought handheld and console markets weren't separate.

This is exactly what you are doing and looks terrible. The nintendo switch was the video game system that sold more hardware by far in 2019. This is a plain fact.



EricHiggin said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah, the "handheld market" isn't really a separate market. They're just gamers like everyone else. It's that kind of silly thinking that leads to people making statements like "Switch is a failure if it doesn't sell as much as the Wii + DS combined". That kind of stuff is just ridiculous.

Plus, if you want to be pedantic about it then one could argue that the PS Vita was essentially a PS4 handheld due to the remote play feature. How many sales exactly did that "add"?

I'm not one who believes that Switch would be a failure if it doesn't match Wii(U)+DS sales combined, but I would certainly say that's certainly a more direct comparison than comparing Switch+Lite vs PS4+Pro. It's more like the arguments of counting XB games/services on PC with XB consoles. Which if you're going to combine all sales related to products in the Switch family, then why not all in the Xbox family? 

I'm not putting Switch or Lite down, I think their success is great. I'm just saying that pointing out they won the year undefeated isn't really an honest point, especially when comparing it to the past where even Nin sales were always separate due to the differing markets. If next year SNY slaps a PS logo on their phones, and ports a couple PS4 games over, do those sales count towards PS4? When those total sales beat Switch sales for at least one month if not more, would that seem honest and fair to take a yearly sweep away from them? I'd say obviously not because a phone is not a console, but a handheld is also not a hybrid or console, which is still up for debate to some.

While this point is mainly moot, then why wasn't Vita combined in the first place? Why does it only make sense to possibly go back and count it now? I thought handheld and console markets weren't separate.

Gotta love how what used to be "Wii U + 3DS combined" has now changed to "Wii + DS combined" now that it's clear it is going to pass the former threshold. Gotta keep moving those goalposts so you can downplay the opponent brand's success.