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Forums - Sony Discussion - The Last Of Us: Part II Launches February 21, 2020

EricHiggin said:
Sarkar said:

Why is this even a thing? The games Sony has announced for PS4 are for the PS4, you'll be able to play them on PS5 through BC but Sony's not gonna use these to sell PS5s.

Horizon Zero Dawn came out in early 2017, when PS5 comes out next year it will have been almost 4 years, GG can certainly have a sequel ready in that time if they made the first one in 5 years. Not to mention by all accounts the next gen consoles are helping cutdown on development time.

Then Gran Turismo 7 should also be good to go. A title from Studio Japan. Perhaps the Demon's Souls remake by Bluepoint. I think those 4 at or during the launch window as in from November 2020- Early 2021 would be a pretty good launch without having to rely on PS4 games.

So you agree with the either or the or, or both? I'd like to ask why this is even a thing but...

I’m talking about the notion that these games will be cross-generation. PS5 will be BC so they will work regardless which makes the concept of cross-gen titles redundant.



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Sarkar said:
EricHiggin said:

So you agree with the either or the or, or both? I'd like to ask why this is even a thing but...

I’m talking about the notion that these games will be cross-generation. PS5 will be BC so they will work regardless which makes the concept of cross-gen titles redundant.

Well I didn't take it that way considering it's fairly well known that's supposed to be the case next gen. 

What I was getting at, was more directed to the individuals who think that games announced for PS4 may be heavily relied on to push PS5 sales early on due to lack of new SIE titles. Pushing these final games out like this, would suggest that either PS5 is coming considerably sooner than holiday 2020 if it's going to rely on these PS4 games, or it's got it's new launch titles all lined up and doesn't need to worry late 2020-early 2021.



EricHiggin said:
Sarkar said:

I’m talking about the notion that these games will be cross-generation. PS5 will be BC so they will work regardless which makes the concept of cross-gen titles redundant.

Well I didn't take it that way considering it's fairly well known that's supposed to be the case next gen. 

What I was getting at, was more directed to the individuals who think that games announced for PS4 may be heavily relied on to push PS5 sales early on due to lack of new SIE titles. Pushing these final games out like this, would suggest that either PS5 is coming considerably sooner than holiday 2020 if it's going to rely on these PS4 games, or it's got it's new launch titles all lined up and doesn't need to worry late 2020-early 2021.

No it’s coming next Holiday and won’t be relying on PS4 titles. Do people forget Sony hasn’t announced any big game since Ghost of Tsushima in 2017. Next year that’ll be around 3 years. Sony’s going to announce a lot next gen since they were in a position to hold things back for these last couple years.



Sarkar said:
EricHiggin said:

Well I didn't take it that way considering it's fairly well known that's supposed to be the case next gen. 

What I was getting at, was more directed to the individuals who think that games announced for PS4 may be heavily relied on to push PS5 sales early on due to lack of new SIE titles. Pushing these final games out like this, would suggest that either PS5 is coming considerably sooner than holiday 2020 if it's going to rely on these PS4 games, or it's got it's new launch titles all lined up and doesn't need to worry late 2020-early 2021.

No it’s coming next Holiday and won’t be relying on PS4 titles. Do people forget Sony hasn’t announced any big game since Ghost of Tsushima in 2017. Next year that’ll be around 3 years. Sony’s going to announce a lot next gen since they were in a position to hold things back for these last couple years.

Well this was or is the fear of some, that the radio silence may be due to lack of titles ready to go for next gen. Based on the last couple of gens it's not like they would be completely out to left field thinking it's somewhat possible. Not like PS has had nothing at all to show before during launch, but based on the heavy hitters that have been shown well in advance for quite some time, and yet now, dead silence, so it's not crazy for some to wonder.

I myself agree that PS likely has a few worthy games on schedule and that has been the plan for quite some time on their part. With all the extra polish time these PS4 games have been getting over the years, it's left plenty of time for new IP, sequels, prequels, etc, for PS5 from the get go.



EricHiggin said:
Sarkar said:

No it’s coming next Holiday and won’t be relying on PS4 titles. Do people forget Sony hasn’t announced any big game since Ghost of Tsushima in 2017. Next year that’ll be around 3 years. Sony’s going to announce a lot next gen since they were in a position to hold things back for these last couple years.

Well this was or is the fear of some, that the radio silence may be due to lack of titles ready to go for next gen. Based on the last couple of gens it's not like they would be completely out to left field thinking it's somewhat possible. Not like PS has had nothing at all to show before during launch, but based on the heavy hitters that have been shown well in advance for quite some time, and yet now, dead silence, so it's not crazy for some to wonder.

I myself agree that PS likely has a few worthy games on schedule and that has been the plan for quite some time on their part. With all the extra polish time these PS4 games have been getting over the years, it's left plenty of time for new IP, sequels, prequels, etc, for PS5 from the get go.

It is in fact completely crazy to thing that because why would Sony be announcing games for the PS5 before they formally announce the console? In previous gens Sony’s studios were busy making current gen games right till the last year or so.

this time GG and Polyphony have been working on next gen for 3-4 years before the console comes out. Santa Monica, and Insomniac got 2-3 year head start, Bend will have a 1.5 year head start, etc. This will not be like PS4’s launch. Anyone who thinks we’re looking at a slow start needs to look deeper.



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If Joel is dead, then who drives the car at 2:17 in the trailer? Ellie is clearly sitting in the passenger seat of a moving vehicle. If you look at the environment of the shot, you can clearly see that it is the same as when Joel sneaks up behind Ellie.

He is alive folks.



LordLichtenstein said:
If Joel is dead, then who drives the car at 2:17 in the trailer? Ellie is clearly sitting in the passenger seat of a moving vehicle. If you look at the environment of the shot, you can clearly see that it is the same as when Joel sneaks up behind Ellie.

He is alive folks.

That's not Joel. The connection between Joel and Ellie is so strong that even a mere figment of his imagination can perform simple tasks such as driving. 



The entire trailer was chopped together using carefully selected segments. Easyallies spotted the scene where Ellie meets Joel is too different scenes as she is out doors and Joel is indoors.

Secondly, where Ellie falls in the beginning with Dina, the threat seems to be clickers but the next scene where we believe Dina gets killed, the threat is human.

IMO, the whole trailer was a red herring. Joel is the one who gets killed in the trailer. The journey starts off with Joel and Ellie wanting to rescue a kidnapped Dina and ends up as a revenge trip where at the end she does Joel right.

It will mirror TLOU where we start off doing a little revenge run and the actual journey becomes about rescuing Ellie where at the end we do right by Ellie in Joel's eyes.

This will start of as a rescue for Dina and then turn to revenge.



Fei-Hung said:
The entire trailer was chopped together using carefully selected segments. Easyallies spotted the scene where Ellie meets Joel is too different scenes as she is out doors and Joel is indoors.

Secondly, where Ellie falls in the beginning with Dina, the threat seems to be clickers but the next scene where we believe Dina gets killed, the threat is human.

IMO, the whole trailer was a red herring. Joel is the one who gets killed in the trailer. The journey starts off with Joel and Ellie wanting to rescue a kidnapped Dina and ends up as a revenge trip where at the end she does Joel right.

It will mirror TLOU where we start off doing a little revenge run and the actual journey becomes about rescuing Ellie where at the end we do right by Ellie in Joel's eyes.

This will start of as a rescue for Dina and then turn to revenge.

Again, if Joel is dead, then who drives the car at 2:17? 

Joel isn't dead. 



what was your favorite story-cutscene in the first "TLOU"-Game ? My is maybe this

I have pre-ordered part 2 now :)  I'm not looking at anything anymore and let myself be surprised. the elli figure looks great!