anyway "are considered within the law under the "Bona Fide Occupational Qualification" provisions of anti-discrimination laws, which essentially state that if a certain quality is fundamental to a positon, the employer may discriminate based upon that quality."

how can that apply here when this ideology is claiming that trans women literally are women?

I would have posted this rebuttal before but as I've said we don't even agree on the fundamentals here so...

on.

to reiterate:

"the same problem with that man choosing to identify as thin and muscular, again I don't care about his lifestyle and I don't want to to force him to do anything

but I don't think I should be forced to play along with what is clearly delusion"

I don't care about what people do with their life, I've stated that several times now

Hahah yeah, I agree but being trans I felt personally responsible in this case to not let misinformation/misconceptions of trans individuals slide through the cracks if only for the benefit of the people who might read their comments and take it seriously. I realize other people are challenging them as well and I'm grateful but I did feel the need to clear things up and challenge their "debating" style in the process.

You're conflating two different things... So lets try to step away from that. - Obesity and being Transgender are completely different.

If you don't care what people do with their life, why do you have such an issue with Trans people? You have been abundantly clear about your disdain for that minority.

ok so my argument is that you are dismissing biology because you are stating here that the only thing taken into consideration is 'identity"

hold on, lets make a distinction here

I can criticise the ideas at play here without criticising the right of trans people to do whatever they want

which is my position in just about everything, let people do whatever the hell they want as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others

but at the same time ideas that are illogical should be criticised

"Obesity and being Transgender are completely different"

I'm talking about identity not obesity itself... there are obviously obese people who identify as being fat

what I'm asking is what happens if an obese person identifies as a fit muscular person? do we play along with that or not?

They aren't a fit muscular person regardless of what they think, so your point is entirely moot.

Trans people for all intents and purposes can be the gender they identify as, as they can have the surgery, hormone treatment and other such things to adhere to stereotypical gender norms.

They aren't a fit muscular person regardless of what they think, so your point is entirely moot.

Trans people for all intents and purposes can be the gender they identify as, as they can have the surgery, hormone treatment and other such things to adhere to stereotypical gender norms.

Gender identity is biological.

It seems like the only person who is dismissing biology here is you.

Does adhering to stereotypes make one a certain gender?  I'd say that's a dangerous argument to make, as it calls into question the gender of those who do not adhere to gender norms.