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EricHiggin said:
sundin13 said:

-"You said if it couldn't be certain types of career oriented people..." - I didn't say that. There are actually three falsehoods in this sentence, so lets go through them one by one. First of all, what does that even mean? "Certain types of career oriented people"? Why use obtuse language? I don't want bankers to be selected to regulate banks. I don't want oil barons to be selected to regulate big oil. It isn't hard. But, that is just part one.

-"...then it should be politicians...": I also didn't say that. I never said that it should be politicians. You do realize that the entire world isn't made up of bankers and politicians, right?

-"...after pointing out you don't like politicians.": I also didn't say that. I'm fine with giving politicians admin positions as long as they are a good fit. You probably shouldn't be putting a politician who denies science a lead role in determining funding for the sciences, for example. As a general rule though, I'm fine with politicians, and I am fine with non-politicians.

As for the rest, do you not understand the concept of a conflict of interest? Is that why you are struggling?

If you're just being uber specific now all of the sudden, meaning you didn't say exactly that, but said the same thing in meaning using different words, that I didn't bother quoting this time since it hasn't help prior, then you're just being difficult for the sake of it and I'm not dealing with that.

If you truly don't think you meant that, then there's no point in continuing. If you don't know what you said or meant, or meant something totally opposite based on what you said, then there's no point in conversing with you any further, because it's like we're speaking different languages.

Considering you've gone ahead and pointed out already, that you know better as to what I meant by what I've said than I do, well... you know best.

I am not being specific. I did not say those things in meaning, or in different words. You seem to have a brain which must reduce things down when you are met with something even the slightest bit complicated, and in doing so, you lose the ability to understand the things that you are attempting to engage with.

I'll repeat my summary one more time, for posterity:

Trump can't simultaneously say "We need to get these conflicts of interest out of politics", fill his administration with conflicts of interest and then sit back and say "I did it! Aren't I the best?"



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sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:

If you're just being uber specific now all of the sudden, meaning you didn't say exactly that, but said the same thing in meaning using different words, that I didn't bother quoting this time since it hasn't help prior, then you're just being difficult for the sake of it and I'm not dealing with that.

If you truly don't think you meant that, then there's no point in continuing. If you don't know what you said or meant, or meant something totally opposite based on what you said, then there's no point in conversing with you any further, because it's like we're speaking different languages.

Considering you've gone ahead and pointed out already, that you know better as to what I meant by what I've said than I do, well... you know best.

I am not being specific. I did not say those things in meaning, or in different words. You seem to have a brain which must reduce things down when you are met with something even the slightest bit complicated, and in doing so, you lose the ability to understand the things that you are attempting to engage with.

I'll repeat my summary one more time, for posterity:

Trump can't simultaneously say "We need to get these conflicts of interest out of politics", fill his administration with conflicts of interest and then sit back and say "I did it! Aren't I the best?"

I don't remember hearing that Trump officially announced that he's the best because he's completely 'drained the swamp' once and for all. If a mechanic fixes what you know to be broken on your car, but finds other problems, he doesn't ignore them. He's likely to need tools to fix those problems as well. There are many types of tools. Some blunt, some forceful, some that even look likely to cause more damage, yet they all serve a useful purpose of some kind, for a period of time. The mechanic knows this, while many others don't, yet they end up thankful when the car drives away in good working order again. How many people are used as tools, even if they themselves don't know it, everyday?



SpokenTruth said:
KLAMarine said:

Buy a car then. Then drive to the airport with medical supplies.

Stop being like this. 

KLAMarine said:

"All but natives"

>In other words, not everyone pays taxes? Do the homeless pay taxes? Is their income taxed?

If the homeless person has an income then yes, it's taxed.  If they purchase anything, then yes, they pay taxes. 

Ar you seriously trying to find a demographic that you can point to that never pays any taxes just so you can point your finger and go, "See....they don't pay taxes.  I win."  Because that's what this discussion looks like to everyone else.

Yeeeeah, I noticed he was doing this and have decided to not respond to him. He has nothing of value to say, just like Eric Higgin. I'm noticing a pattern of people who have a tenuous grip on reality and a complete lack of relevance when it comes to their arguments to what they're discussing. IT's kinda sad. 



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
KLAMarine said:

Buy a car then. Then drive to the airport with medical supplies.

Highlighted: Find the error in reasoning.

"THEY LOCKED ME UP IN A CAGE!" 

"Well just leave, they can't hurt you if you leave." 

Perfect, flawless logic from KLAMarine! 



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Runa216 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Stop being like this. 

If the homeless person has an income then yes, it's taxed.  If they purchase anything, then yes, they pay taxes. 

Ar you seriously trying to find a demographic that you can point to that never pays any taxes just so you can point your finger and go, "See....they don't pay taxes.  I win."  Because that's what this discussion looks like to everyone else.

Yeeeeah, I noticed he was doing this and have decided to not respond to him. He has nothing of value to say, just like Eric Higgin. I'm noticing a pattern of people who have a tenuous grip on reality and a complete lack of relevance when it comes to their arguments to what they're discussing. IT's kinda sad. 

I'd have preferred if you actually responded to the substance of my argument rather than imply I 'have a tenuous grip on reality'.

Runa216 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Highlighted: Find the error in reasoning.

"THEY LOCKED ME UP IN A CAGE!" 

"Well just leave, they can't hurt you if you leave." 

Perfect, flawless logic from KLAMarine! 

Not at all my logic. If so, explain how.



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CaptainExplosion said:
KLAMarine said:

You could buy medical supplies and hand them out at the airport. There's an idea.

Sure, at an airport that I live several hours away from.

I forgot you mentioned "several hours away". Fine, hand out medical supplies at a bus stop. People are regularly traveling to and from there. Show you're people over profit...



SpokenTruth said:

This is a conversation that just happened.

CaptainExplosion: "GOP blocking coronavirus bill — because it limits how much drugmakers can charge for a vaccine."

KLAMarine: [irrelevant] CE should donate to fund virus research.

Runa216: He donated with his taxes.

KLA: [tangent] Not everybody pays taxes.

CE: No way to know if my donation would go towards the goal.

KLA: [completely ignoring that CE already pays taxes] CE should hand out supplies at the airport.

CE: I live hours away from an airport.

KLA [Still ignoring that CE pays taxes] Suggesting CE is putting his own profit over people by not going several hours to an airport to hand out supplies.

CE: I don't have a car and am financially limited.

KLA: [Still ignoring that CE pays taxes and is financially limited] CE should buy a car.

Everybody: Are you F-ing serious?

KLA: [Still ignoring that CE pays taxes and is financially limited] CE should ride a bike several hours away [by car] to an airport to hand out supplies so that he don't look like he's putting his own profit over people that might die.

Everybody: Are you F-ing serious?

KLA: [Still ignoring that CE pays taxes and is financially limited] CE should hand out supplies at a bus stop to not look like he's putting his own profit over people that might die.

"CE should hand out supplies at a bus stop to not look like he's putting his own profit over people that might die."

>Well why not? People could die, let's disregard financial limitations.



Honestly, the last couple of pages of this thread have been absolute comedy gold :))

I'm not sure whether a couple of the individuals involved are seriously delusional, straight-up trolls or  friggin bots but, for me anyway, it's crossed the line from being really irritating to hilarious! I'm sure the pendulum will swing back again, but for now I just want to thank all involved!



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SpokenTruth said:

You could make an inverse comic wherein the life raft itself is not good enough at all and the guy does offer a "more inspiring raft" that benefits all of them but they all choose the original ineffective life raft anyway because its what they've always chosen.

Fair, but the general and the primary are very different beasts.