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StreaK said:
CGI-Quality said:
Holy Christ if true! That would be a massive get.

Can't be true...I mean, why wouldn't Microsoft buy them out? They can offer more than Sony can. I don't get this.

Well based on what Phil said when Bungie left Activision, apparently MS didn't try to convince them to sell to or join MS. It's hard to believe that if Bungie wanted to partner with MS again that they wouldn't be interested. If Take Two has enough leverage over what happens to the company, whether it get's bought out and who it sells to, you have to wonder if they would prefer it to be a certain company, or if they flat out would refuse to join certain companies. If MS has cash to burn, then why haven't they continued to steadily buy more studios, or have they been and nobody knows yet until they announce it. On a big stage again?

Could be a lot of reasons. Just because you have more money than someone, doesn't mean you always get what you want. Most of the time maybe, but not always.



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DonFerrari said:
Machiavellian said:

I believe if MS smelled something like this was in the works they would check the waters just to see if there is any validity to the claim.  Yes, MS could easily counter any offer Sony could make money wise or make it so that Sony has to pay so much it would turn out improbably.  The thing is T2 has no reason to take a bid like that from Sony and not see if MS would pay more.  If we are talking money deals, then why not shop that price around and get the maximum.  No matter if its MS or Sony, next gen things pretty much start again.

And if not the rumor how exactly would MS smell it?

Just as easy without a rumor,  someone on the inside spilling the beans.  When money is involved people are willing to give up such info at a drop of a dime.  Not everything is made public.



EricHiggin said:
StreaK said:

Can't be true...I mean, why wouldn't Microsoft buy them out? They can offer more than Sony can. I don't get this.

Well based on what Phil said when Bungie left Activision, apparently MS didn't try to convince them to sell to or join MS. It's hard to believe that if Bungie wanted to partner with MS again that they wouldn't be interested. If Take Two has enough leverage over what happens to the company, whether it get's bought out and who it sells to, you have to wonder if they would prefer it to be a certain company, or if they flat out would refuse to join certain companies. If MS has cash to burn, then why haven't they continued to steadily buy more studios, or have they been and nobody knows yet until they announce it. On a big stage again?

Could be a lot of reasons. Just because you have more money than someone, doesn't mean you always get what you want. Most of the time maybe, but not always.

Why would you bring up a MS that no longer exist.  In other words since Bungie departure there has been quite a turnaround in top management as well as top management in the games division.  Either way, we have no real clue what this MS would do if the offer is on the table.  We can really guess all we want but if we are talking about money and who has it with plenty of cash on hand, then MS far exceed anything Sony could offer.



EricHiggin said:
Machiavellian said:

I believe if MS smelled something like this was in the works they would check the waters just to see if there is any validity to the claim.  Yes, MS could easily counter any offer Sony could make money wise or make it so that Sony has to pay so much it would turn out improbably.  The thing is T2 has no reason to take a bid like that from Sony and not see if MS would pay more.  If we are talking money deals, then why not shop that price around and get the maximum.  No matter if its MS or Sony, next gen things pretty much start again.

If Take Two was thinking or open to selling, whatever the reason, and SNY had stepped up already and made a decent offer, it could be a situation where they make it clear the deal happens soon between them or not at all. If SNY get's wind that Take Two is shopping then the deals off. With how SNY can be sometimes, this wouldn't really be anything out of the norm. You see this happen all the time on shows like Shark Tank or Dragons Den where the big shot investors/purchasers do this because they don't want to get into a bidding war. If MS doesn't want to buy Take Two in general, or doesn't want to spend that kind of money right now, then Take Two would be in a tougher spot. Considering this all comes after MS has spent a bunch of money on multiple smaller studios, it wouldn't be crazy to think it was smart strategy by SNY the entire time. That's not to say MS couldn't find $20 large to outbid SNY, but the likelihood of that after the moves MS has already made is much more improbable. Then again, it all may be bogus to begin with.

First off, the rumor is that Sony made an offer not T2 stating they were up for sale.  The likely hood of MS doing whatever they see fit to stay competitive in the business we have no clue of but you can believe they have so much cash reserves that 20BN they could easily afford without blinking an eye.  For a company like MS have huge cash on hand not making you money really isn't all that great.  So if MS is willing to purchase the companies they have and could also get R* and the other gems within T2, why would they not do it.  Your reason is that they already spent to much money which really doesn't hold water.



Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

And if not the rumor how exactly would MS smell it?

Just as easy without a rumor,  someone on the inside spilling the beans.  When money is involved people are willing to give up such info at a drop of a dime.  Not everything is made public.

So you are talking about permanent corporate espionage. That is a crime.

Otherwise a secret deal being talked about by a very small team wouldn't automatically go to MS ears you understand that right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

If Take Two was thinking or open to selling, whatever the reason, and SNY had stepped up already and made a decent offer, it could be a situation where they make it clear the deal happens soon between them or not at all. If SNY get's wind that Take Two is shopping then the deals off. With how SNY can be sometimes, this wouldn't really be anything out of the norm. You see this happen all the time on shows like Shark Tank or Dragons Den where the big shot investors/purchasers do this because they don't want to get into a bidding war. If MS doesn't want to buy Take Two in general, or doesn't want to spend that kind of money right now, then Take Two would be in a tougher spot. Considering this all comes after MS has spent a bunch of money on multiple smaller studios, it wouldn't be crazy to think it was smart strategy by SNY the entire time. That's not to say MS couldn't find $20 large to outbid SNY, but the likelihood of that after the moves MS has already made is much more improbable. Then again, it all may be bogus to begin with.

First off, the rumor is that Sony made an offer not T2 stating they were up for sale.  The likely hood of MS doing whatever they see fit to stay competitive in the business we have no clue of but you can believe they have so much cash reserves that 20BN they could easily afford without blinking an eye.  For a company like MS have huge cash on hand not making you money really isn't all that great.  So if MS is willing to purchase the companies they have and could also get R* and the other gems within T2, why would they not do it.  Your reason is that they already spent to much money which really doesn't hold water.

Not sure why this has to be brought up so often, but MS =/= Xbox. Xbox does not have access to the money MS does. MS allocates them a budget and that's what they get. They may be able to convince a higher up to give them more, but they aren't convincing them to give them $14B+ to buy a publisher and its IPs for a game release every 3-4 years in each, minus a couple yearly sports titles. Xbox just isn't that high of a priority for MS, and definitely not for its investors.

PlayStation, on the other hand, is one of Sony's main focuses. If they felt it would bolster them for next gen, and weaken their competition enough, they definitely would do this. However, they may not think its worth it ,either, if T2's games are just going to sell 60-70% on there systems anyway.



Not sure if people are aware but Sony already debunked this as not happening.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/03/16/sony-take-two-acquisition-report-denied/



NobleTeam360 said:
Not sure if people are aware but Sony already debunked this as not happening.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/03/16/sony-take-two-acquisition-report-denied/

It was already posted couple times. This type of debunking doesn't prove anything anyway, as generally all rumors are denied until they become true (not that this rumor was ever real at any time).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

 

NobleTeam360 said:
Not sure if people are aware but Sony already debunked this as not happening.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/03/16/sony-take-two-acquisition-report-denied/

Yeah, this was confirmed last week—the day after the initial rumor started. I was confused why everyone was still talking about the rumor in light of the confirmation. 



pitzy272 said:

 

NobleTeam360 said:
Not sure if people are aware but Sony already debunked this as not happening.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/03/16/sony-take-two-acquisition-report-denied/

Yeah, this was confirmed last week—the day after the initial rumor started. I was confused why everyone was still talking about the rumor in light of the confirmation. 

Yeah, I was just posting to make sure because people were still talking about it. xD