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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 16 February 2019

Bofferbrauer2 said:
curl-6 said:

Adjustments made on the front page to these numbers: Switch now leads PS4 242k to 220k

Yeah, PS4 got adjusted down a lot in the US, now on par with the XBO there, which is much more likely.

Can I ask why is it more likely that the PS4 is closer to XBO? I'm really not trying to start anything at all. I never do. I legitimately want to know why it makes more sense to you that the Switch beat the PS4 more convincingly than being on par with it. I'm asking because I've seen your post all through this thread in disbelief that Switch is undertracked or PS4 is overtracked.



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simek said:

With this numbers its obvious that Microsoft is on the way out in console bussines, and on the way in, in Gaming Service Bussines. Closing themself to only one hardware with this numbers, means death to them. Console agnostic service driven XBOX is the only way to go.

You go back about 3 years and you'll find this exact same post about the WiiU and Nintendo, go back to 2006 and you'll find the same post about the PS3 and Sony.... look at the charts now and think about the low points the WiiU and PS3 suffered, these companies can withstand a few failures, and with the cash MS are after investing in studios the next gen could be completely flipped on its head if they go and make a machine for gamers... no Kinect forced in, no always online, no TV centric rubbish and yeah.... just... make it for games. The Switch went a full calendar year with no youtube, it is still going into its second calendar year with just youtube, no netflix and no browser, no ability to play a movie from usb drive or online... yet it's selling a quarter of a million systems every week. Gamers wanted a gaming machine, Microsoft needs to step up and create the same sort of device for in the home and they can come back from this with ease.



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Switch outsold the X1 by 163k units this week, if the numbers for both machines and that gap was to stay solid it would take Nintendos little beast 61 more weeks of this to consume the last of the lead the X1 has on it by launching 3.5 years ahead of the Nintendo system and having 2 major hardware revisions since then.

Personally I don't think it will be 61 weeks if that time includes a holiday season 2019 that has Pokemon Shield and Sword ready to go with the Switch then I think the lead of the X1 over the system will be done with by the holidays unless something major comes out of E3 by either party, still though a lead of 160k is difficult to maintain over a rival system during the summer months where systems regularly drop to those kind of numbers so... unless X1 starts to sell negative amounts it would be tough for Switch to continue that size of a gap, although there was some weeks this Christmas that the Switch pulled back close to a million units in 7 days so a couple of those around the time of Sword and Shield would smooth over some rough slow weeks.



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Nate4Drake said:
Kerotan said:
The ps4 has absolutely no right to be topping the chart in year 6. No right whatsoever. How does it pull it off?

At $299, and still very competitive; PS4 does not even need a price cut, can you imagine ?  In Japan maybe, but I don't think it's the right time; Jap can buy 60-70k Switch per week without new games, 'cause its the new cool trend, a lovely and colorful handheld from Nintendo to take with them when they go to work or to school.   September 2019 would be definitively the best time for a Worldwide price cut at $199, and enlarge even more the Playstation ecosystem, and be ready for PS5 the year after, BC, and PSN bigger than ever.   Sony are doing all perfectly this Gen, and PS4 the most profitable playstation console of all.  Congrats Sony!

Japan needs a $50 price cut ASAP or things will get ugly there. 

Bofferbrauer2 said:
curl-6 said:

Adjustments made on the front page to these numbers: Switch now leads PS4 242k to 220k

Yeah, PS4 got adjusted down a lot in the US, now on par with the XBO there, which is much more likely.

I think ps4 should be a good bit ahead of xbox in the US. 



Rafie said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Yeah, PS4 got adjusted down a lot in the US, now on par with the XBO there, which is much more likely.

Can I ask why is it more likely that the PS4 is closer to XBO? I'm really not trying to start anything at all. I never do. I legitimately want to know why it makes more sense to you that the Switch beat the PS4 more convincingly than being on par with it. I'm asking because I've seen your post all through this thread in disbelief that Switch is undertracked or PS4 is overtracked.

It much more aligns with the results of the NPD prediction tool for February, where PS4 and XBO were very close together and Switch outselling them 2:1.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Rafie said:

Can I ask why is it more likely that the PS4 is closer to XBO? I'm really not trying to start anything at all. I never do. I legitimately want to know why it makes more sense to you that the Switch beat the PS4 more convincingly than being on par with it. I'm asking because I've seen your post all through this thread in disbelief that Switch is undertracked or PS4 is overtracked.

It much more aligns with the results of the NPD prediction tool for February, where PS4 and XBO were very close together and Switch outselling them 2:1.

I appreciate that. I was curious. How much do you think the Switch will beat PS4 by in Feb? Which is still crazy considering both PS4/XBO had 3rd party releases that weren't on Switch.



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Kerotan said:
The ps4 has absolutely no right to be topping the chart in year 6. No right whatsoever. How does it pull it off?

Looking at the front page which has updated numbers it seems you were correct.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Kerotan said:
The ps4 has absolutely no right to be topping the chart in year 6. No right whatsoever. How does it pull it off?

Looking at the front page which has updated numbers it seems you were correct.

Is it me or you are a little angry ?



Keiji said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Looking at the front page which has updated numbers it seems you were correct.

Is it me or you are a little angry ?

It's very much you.



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Keiji said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Looking at the front page which has updated numbers it seems you were correct.

Is it me or you are a little angry ?

He's a little angry alchemist. Alt account confirmed, perma ban incoming.