Very likely it will go over the 9million mark before being discontinued, my post was to CGI who said 9m in 2 years, that won't happen unless something drastic happens imo.

Never know as well, MS might come out with a revision in the same family, they've spoken about forwards compatibility when it comes to their next system so as to not be starting a new generation from scratch so there is the possibility that the next MS machine will be the Xbox1-Chapter2 but still be in the same sales clump as the original machines so it will go well beyond 50m units when wave 2 would begin.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/856963/Xbox-One-X-backwards-compatibility-Microsoft-forward-compatibility-PS4-Pro

True, at the end it will probably be 85-86m for the 360 and 50-52m for the XBO. The 360 has the Kinect in the latter part of the generation to give it breath of new life and I doubt the same will happen for the XBO.

In 2013 the PS4 sold like 4m and XBO like 3m and that was with all the backlash MS got.I think having a big launch is pretty much a given for both companies. What matters is how the generation pans out after the first few launch months.

All the studios they currently have and the new ones are going at a rapid pace. And yeah not all the games need to release at once but MS will give them time too cook so we could see a steady release stream of games which is what they are probably going for since they have gamepass now. They also publish 2nd party games so there's that. Here is what we know so far for their studios.

343I- Has been growing and is working on Halo Infinite while updating MCC.

Rare- Has been growing and has 100-150 on SoT and 80 started working on their new game during the summer.

Coalition- Working on Gears 5, and Gears Tactics. They too has been growing.

Mojang- Working on Minecraft and Minecraft Dungeons.

Undead Labs- Has been growing and working on State of Decay 2 content. Probably started early production on a new game.

Compulsion- Has been growing and updating We Happy Few.

Playground- Has been working and they have a Forza Horizon and Fable team.

InXile- Has been growing, has 2 teams now. Working on Wasteland 3, Bards Tale remaster, and they have an unannounced project.

Ninja Theory- Has been growing and they have multiple games in development. Their are rumors that their "Bleeding Edge" game is nearing final stages of development.

Obsidean- They are working on the Outer Worlds.

The Initiative- They have been hiring some top talent from Rockstar, Crystal Dynamics, Guerrilla Games etc. Im expecting a huge new IP from them.

And MS are still looking at studios to buy. Overall MS will be competitive next gen when it comes to first party and I think this will help them have a better generation.

It'd be kinda a bad call to keep the 'Xbox One' name as it has negative connotations. And even if they did keep the name for their next gen system, if it was an all new system and the games no longer came to the base Xbone, then it wouldn't be the same sales clump regardless of what it was called. I mean Wii U wasn't clumped together with the Wii.

The WiiU wasn't grouped to the Wii because the Wii cannot play any WiiU games.

The Xbox1 featuring forwards compatibility which allowed it's users to play severely downgraded versions of a Xbox2 game would still have the same software library, I mean... these machines are getting closer to PC all the times, it can't be too far off to simply have PCesque settings to turn down resolution and kill some of the effects, I mean you look at something like Overwatch on the PC, the Minimum specs to play that includes a GTX460 while there is people who would claim their eyes would bleed on anything less than a 1080TI that doesn't take from the fact that a game which can potentially run at 4k/300FPS (300fps is the limit I've hit at 1080p, not sure why) but yeah... the same game can be experienced on a PC with a Graphics card which can be bought for £15 https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sgranvigtx4602&categoryName=pci-express-graphics-cards&superCatName=computing&title=nvidia-geforce-fermi-gtx-460-768mb

For comparison sake, that's a game which runs on a card which is 1/8th the power of what some would consider part of the PC master race, close to a decade old card, which launched 5 years before Overwatch, still capable of playing the game.

I just mean... the Xbox 2 will not be 8x the power of the X1 so the older machine should be able to provide a similar experience to what a GTX460 user would enjoy with Overwatch compared to someone on a 1080TI

It's extremely unlikely though that the base Xbox One is going to be forwards compatible with the next Xbox, it is already struggling to run current gen multiplats like Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Just Cause 4. For that kind of cross-compatibility would require that Xbox Two would be severely held back. Graphics may scale, but CPU side less so, especially given how slow and weak the Jag in the Xbone was... in 2013.

Or it would require the cloud computing which was promised to the X1 back after it launched with clearly lacking hardware. By the time the next Xbox rolls around the cloud could be ready to rain those bonus xbox360s into the base model X1!

remember that... good times.

I dont doubt that they will have a much better Gen. With more studios you get more games and no matter the quality of said games, more is always better. But thats not my argument. Is that is foolish to believe that thouse new smal teams are gona come out swiging with major exclusives "GOW" caliber right out the gate. Im saying it wont be untill like at least mid gen untill thouse new guys bring out anything good. At the begining aside from the big 3 halo gears and forza, all we will see is fodder to build up gamepass.

GOW 4 is 2018s GOTY and considered to be one of Sonys best games. It will be hard for them to deliver a game of that quality but it's not as foolish to think that their new studios could deliver on something like that.

Undead, inXile, and compulsion games probably won't but the other new studios are capable.

Playground Games lowest reviewed game is Forza Horizon 1 at 85 and their last 2 games scored in the 90s. They have the talent to make a GOW 4 caliber Gable game.

Ninja Theory made Hellblade with a small budget while developing multiple games for other publishers. Now they have the funds and creative freedom to do whatever they want.

Obsidean devevloped Fallout New Vegas which is considered by many to be the best Fallout game. They have lots of talented devs and the Outer Worlds look promising.

And yeah the Initiative has been hiring some of the industries best. They even have quite a few people that worked on GOW XD.

Im not saying that MS new studios will create a GOW caliber game though but some of their studios are definitely capable of doing so.

I do believe that Switch is 9th gen and it has a 30M+ lead.  Yes.

But I would like to understand

1. what you mean exactly by "technology"?  
2. What generation would you put the Wii into?

When Sony released the PS2, the PS1 continued to sell with very long legs.  It's gravy train did not end when the PS2 released.
When Sony released the PS3, the PS2 continued its gravy train continued for a long time.
The PS4 is a very solid console like the PS1 and the PS2.  It will have strong legs even after the PS5 releases, regardless if it comes out in 2019 or a later year. 

What Sony needs to be worried about is the PS5.  The PS2 was the best selling console of all time and that did not help the PS3 one bit.  The PS4 is very solid, but that will not help the PS5 one bit.  The longer they wait to release the PS5, the harder time it will have in the marketplace.  The Switch already has a head start that is two years old and growing.  Are they going to let Microsoft have a head start too?  How much are they going to cripple the PS5 before it even launches?