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Who did you vote for?

GOP Rep and GOP Senator 20 30.77%
 
Democrat Rep and Democrat Senator 38 58.46%
 
GOP Rep and Democrat Senator 0 0%
 
Democrat Rep and GOP Senator 4 6.15%
 
Third Party/Other 3 4.62%
 
Total:65
PwerlvlAmy on 07 November 2018
deskpro2k3 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Popular vote is like winning second place in a beauty contest. It's not really something to go by overall.  No side,left or right should use excuses for their losses. Both parties should own up to their individual failures,learn from it and come back 2020(House/Presidency) and use that to make them better as a whole. 

Yeah and while we're learning about failers, let's pretend voter suppression is a thing that only happens in fairytale stores. /S

Both parties have their own share of failures. Let's not kid ourselves. The longer each party blames something for their own failures(which both parties do all the time) the longer nothing overall will be accomplished by either party. 



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Machiavellian on 07 November 2018
Poliwrathlord said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I was just thinking about this. Trump now essentially has a scapegoat with the Dems controlling the house.

"Things not going well? No progress being made? It's the Dems' fault!"

And if I know the Dems like I think I do, they will spend their time w/ House majority coming up with more Russian conspiracy theories, investigations into Trump, and trying to obstruct what he does, which will only work to create a voter backlash against them come 2020.

I agree with this. This is a hollow victory for the Democrats, and I don't think it will really help their chances in 2020, especially with Pelosi possibly becoming the Speaker of the House again.

Din't stop Trump from getting elected.  Republicans did the same thing with Obama then blamed everything on him.  Dems probably will just follow the same gameplan and flood the news with how ineffective Trump is even if they become obstructionist.  Whoever gets their message out the best will probably be the winner in 2020.  What Trump has to make sure of is that the economy stays strong.  If it goes south then he goes south no matter who he tries to blame.  



PwerlvlAmy on 07 November 2018
Machiavellian said:
Poliwrathlord said:

I agree with this. This is a hollow victory for the Democrats, and I don't think it will really help their chances in 2020, especially with Pelosi possibly becoming the Speaker of the House again.

Din't stop Trump from getting elected.  Republicans did the same thing with Obama then blamed everything on him.  Dems probably will just follow the same gameplan and flood the news with how ineffective Trump is even if they become obstructionist.  Whoever gets their message out the best will probably be the winner in 2020.  What Trump has to make sure of is that the economy stays strong.  If it goes south then he goes south no matter who he tries to blame.  

Always happens. Obama blamed Bush for all 8 years of his term. Trump will blame Obama all term. President after Trump will blame Trump all term.  It's the circle of life



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StarDoor on 07 November 2018
deskpro2k3 said:
Democratic congressional candidates got about nine million more votes. Yes, that is how well the republican gerrymandering works. You can get more votes, and stil lose.

Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)
Senate seats: Republicans +3

the Senate DOESN’T represent the will of the people.

Oh my God. Do you seriously not realize that only 33 out of 50 states had Senate elections this year? You can't declare victory in the utterly illogical "Senate popular vote" when 17 states and 80 million people in the country are excluded.

Republican-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 56 million)
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Georgia
-Kentucky
-Alabama
-Iowa
-Arkansas
-Louisiana
-South Dakota
-Kansas
-Oklahoma
-Idaho

Democratic-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 24 million)
-New Hampshire
-Illinois
-Colorado
-Oregon

Not to mention how California's Senate race was between two Democrats because of the state's weird primary system. Of course Democrats are going to win more votes if the country's largest state doesn't even have a Republican on the ballot.



Machiavellian on 07 November 2018
StarDoor said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Democratic congressional candidates got about nine million more votes. Yes, that is how well the republican gerrymandering works. You can get more votes, and stil lose.

Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)
Senate seats: Republicans +3

the Senate DOESN’T represent the will of the people.

Oh my God. Do you seriously not realize that only 33 out of 50 states had Senate elections this year? You can't declare victory in the utterly illogical "Senate popular vote" when 17 states and 80 million people in the country are excluded.

Republican-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 56 million)
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Georgia
-Kentucky
-Alabama
-Iowa
-Arkansas
-Louisiana
-South Dakota
-Kansas
-Oklahoma
-Idaho

Democratic-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 24 million)
-New Hampshire
-Illinois
-Colorado
-Oregon

Not to mention how California's Senate race was between two Democrats because of the state's weird primary system. Of course Democrats are going to win more votes if the country's largest state doesn't even have a Republican on the ballot.

You also have to look at how many Republican seats compared to Dems seat out of those 35 up for grabs were in play.  The Dems had 26 seats in play out of the 35 while the Republicans had 9.  The Dems had to gain 2 seats out of the 9 that were in play for them this term to gain control.  Its probably one of the reason why most stats did not have them making any gains since the margin was so small.  Either way, no one felt they would gain anything out of the Senate.  The Senate may never go blue  because its never going to be based on population so I agree arguing about that part is a waste of time.



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jason1637 on 07 November 2018
Machiavellian said:
StarDoor said:

Oh my God. Do you seriously not realize that only 33 out of 50 states had Senate elections this year? You can't declare victory in the utterly illogical "Senate popular vote" when 17 states and 80 million people in the country are excluded.

Republican-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 56 million)
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Georgia
-Kentucky
-Alabama
-Iowa
-Arkansas
-Louisiana
-South Dakota
-Kansas
-Oklahoma
-Idaho

Democratic-leaning states without a Senate election: (Population - 24 million)
-New Hampshire
-Illinois
-Colorado
-Oregon

Not to mention how California's Senate race was between two Democrats because of the state's weird primary system. Of course Democrats are going to win more votes if the country's largest state doesn't even have a Republican on the ballot.

You also have to look at how many Republican seats compared to Dems seat out of those 35 up for grabs were in play.  The Dems had 26 seats in play out of the 35 while the Republicans had 9.  The Dems had to gain 2 seats out of the 9 that were in play for them this term to gain control.  Its probably one of the reason why most stats did not have them making any gains since the margin was so small.  Either way, no one felt they would gain anything out of the Senate.  The Senate may never go blue  because its never going to be based on population so I agree arguing about that part is a waste of time.

Senate can go blue in 2020/2024 is Dems play their cards right.



deskpro2k3 on 07 November 2018

Nine. Million. More.

That is all. I can't elaborate that any clearer. Sorry, not sorry if anybody don't understand.



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Nighthawk117 on 07 November 2018
deskpro2k3 said:
Nine. Million. More.

Most of which. are. residents. of. California.  The most. lopsided Democratic. of all. the. blue. states. Comprende?

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jason1637 on 07 November 2018
deskpro2k3 said:
Nine. Million. More.

That is all. I can't elaborate that any clearer. Sorry, not sorry if anybody don't understand.

They still won more seats dude.

They won 19 seats and the GOP won 11.



AnarchyWest on 07 November 2018
deskpro2k3 said:
Nine. Million. More.

That is all. I can't elaborate that any clearer. Sorry, not sorry if anybody don't understand.

Can you elaborate on this point? The Senate vote is a popular vote in each state and states have varying populations. The Senate election is at the state level, not congressional district level, so gerrymandering wouldn't be a factor here. 

Are you saying since Democrat candidates received collectively more popular votes in the aggregate they should control all 100 Senate seats? Should New Yorkers be able to vote in the Texas Senate race? I am not understanding your point on "9 million more" so can you explain further? How should the Senate election system be if you don't like the current one?