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Megiddo said:
toot1231 said:
Monster Hunter World on PC is an absolute train wreck so I played the demo of Generations last night and was like sweet jesus im back home again. This is monster hunter. World runs like garbage on PC looks like garbage, the online doesn't work 99% of the time, its a singleplayer game disguised as a multiplayer game. I hope there is NEVER another Monster Hunter with the structure of World it is a downgrade. It fixed a lot of tiny issues but creates bigger issues.

I am beyond glad to go back to Generations

MHW is a 2018 game. It's not going to run well on a toaster. There are going to be a lot more MunHun games like MHW since it is far and away the highest selling MonHun game ever.

Highest selling doesn't mean best and it's easy to be the highest selling when its on every single platform. World does way too many things wrong and I am for sure, not on a toaster. Ryzen 5 2600 4.0ghz, RX 580 8GB, 16gb ram

Here is a brief list of things MHW gets wrong from my steam review

-Having to watch cutscenes to play online, forced story, lack of weapon cosmetic variety, lack of armors, too easy to craft full sets, no g rank, only way to message people is by pausing the game (given that the online is working which 99% of the time its not), casualized, lack of monster variety, bland locations except for coral highlands, no more skills so therefore a lack of movement options compared to generations.

And none of that is even mentioning the shoddy PC port. There is a reason it has a 42% rating on steam and lowering because it's a bad Monster Hunter game. Good game, bad monster hunter game. The only reason its getting praised by console players is because this is the first one they've ever played so it was like "wow nothing can get better than mediocrity because i am clueless!"

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I can see where you are coming from but I disagree. I don't trust Capcom NOT making a Monster Hunter World Ultimate. They tricked me with Monster Hunter Tri when the Ultimate version came two years later. I will wait for Monster Hunter World Ultimate to come out on PC before it comes out (Probably 2020 release). This is why I am getting Generation Ultimate first. At least the game will feel complete.

Also going backwards just requires a bit more discipline for me. I played through and beat Dragon Quest 1 a few months ago. Now that was hard to do! I still had fun with it though.



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toot1231 said:
Megiddo said:

MHW is a 2018 game. It's not going to run well on a toaster. There are going to be a lot more MunHun games like MHW since it is far and away the highest selling MonHun game ever.

Highest selling doesn't mean best and it's easy to be the highest selling when its on every single platform. World does way too many things wrong and I am for sure, not on a toaster. Ryzen 5 2600 4.0ghz, RX 580 8GB, 16gb ram

Here is a brief list of things MHW gets wrong from my steam review

-Having to watch cutscenes to play online, forced story, lack of weapon cosmetic variety, lack of armors, too easy to craft full sets, no g rank, only way to message people is by pausing the game (given that the online is working which 99% of the time its not), casualized, lack of monster variety, bland locations except for coral highlands, no more skills so therefore a lack of movement options compared to generations.

And none of that is even mentioning the shoddy PC port. There is a reason it has a 42% rating on steam and lowering because it's a bad Monster Hunter game. Good game, bad monster hunter game. The only reason its getting praised by console players is because this is the first one they've ever played so it was like "wow nothing can get better than mediocrity because i am clueless!"

I think MonHun players are blown away because they're not subject to several loading screens as they chase their target through several teeny tiny areas. If you prefer that, that's fine and it's your opinion. For others they prefer having the giant seamless environment. Odd that your steam review doesn't mention graphical quality. It's a lot more rational than your prior post that I had quoted. "Forced story" got a big chuckle out of me.



killeryoshis said:
I can see where you are coming from but I disagree. I don't trust Capcom NOT making a Monster Hunter World Ultimate. They tricked me with Monster Hunter Tri when the Ultimate version came two years later. I will wait for Monster Hunter World Ultimate to come out on PC before it comes out (Probably 2020 release). This is why I am getting Generation Ultimate first. At least the game will feel complete.

Also going backwards just requires a bit more discipline for me. I played through and beat Dragon Quest 1 a few months ago. Now that was hard to do! I still had fun with it though.

If you like a game waiting 2 years for it is like a torture =p

Megiddo said:
toot1231 said:

Highest selling doesn't mean best and it's easy to be the highest selling when its on every single platform. World does way too many things wrong and I am for sure, not on a toaster. Ryzen 5 2600 4.0ghz, RX 580 8GB, 16gb ram

Here is a brief list of things MHW gets wrong from my steam review

-Having to watch cutscenes to play online, forced story, lack of weapon cosmetic variety, lack of armors, too easy to craft full sets, no g rank, only way to message people is by pausing the game (given that the online is working which 99% of the time its not), casualized, lack of monster variety, bland locations except for coral highlands, no more skills so therefore a lack of movement options compared to generations.

And none of that is even mentioning the shoddy PC port. There is a reason it has a 42% rating on steam and lowering because it's a bad Monster Hunter game. Good game, bad monster hunter game. The only reason its getting praised by console players is because this is the first one they've ever played so it was like "wow nothing can get better than mediocrity because i am clueless!"

I think MonHun players are blown away because they're not subject to several loading screens as they chase their target through several teeny tiny areas. If you prefer that, that's fine and it's your opinion. For others they prefer having the giant seamless environment. Odd that your steam review doesn't mention graphical quality. It's a lot more rational than your prior post that I had quoted. "Forced story" got a big chuckle out of me.

It's hard to see how the game can be so bad but sell because of multiplatforms (when seem like it is shit in PC and not that hot on X1).



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Megiddo said:

I think MonHun players are blown away because they're not subject to several loading screens as they chase their target through several teeny tiny areas. If you prefer that, that's fine and it's your opinion. For others they prefer having the giant seamless environment. Odd that your steam review doesn't mention graphical quality. It's a lot more rational than your prior post that I had quoted. "Forced story" got a big chuckle out of me.

Any why can't a giant seamless environment be created on Switch?  Zelda does this quite well. 



 

 

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vivster said:
Is it better than Stardew Valley?

No.

Also, I find this thread to be hilarious, as I find Monster Hunter: World, to be barren and empty.
I'm having fun with the game, but for a game that has been praised for its AI and world density, it is shockingly hollow and eh, pretty lame.
Hit reg sucks too.



DonFerrari said:
killeryoshis said:
I can see where you are coming from but I disagree. I don't trust Capcom NOT making a Monster Hunter World Ultimate. They tricked me with Monster Hunter Tri when the Ultimate version came two years later. I will wait for Monster Hunter World Ultimate to come out on PC before it comes out (Probably 2020 release). This is why I am getting Generation Ultimate first. At least the game will feel complete.

Also going backwards just requires a bit more discipline for me. I played through and beat Dragon Quest 1 a few months ago. Now that was hard to do! I still had fun with it though.

If you like a game waiting 2 years for it is like a torture =p

It is easy when it feels like you are paying only to get the game early with less content. Plus there are more interesting games to get before then anyway.



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killeryoshis said:
DonFerrari said:

If you like a game waiting 2 years for it is like a torture =p

It is easy when it feels like you are paying only to get the game early with less content. Plus there are more interesting games to get before then anyway.

It all depends if you are looking as having less content buying now or more content buying later. If a game presents all necessary right now I don't think like paying more for less, But very few games I feel the urge to buy close to launch so I can understand you wanting to wait.



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Nuvendil said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
In spite of all complaints, the Japanese will buy a lot more copies of Gen. Ultimate than World. I'm sure it will be good enough.

This came out in Japan last year and no, it didn't because it is a low effort port of an expanded edition of a stop-gap title that was composed almost entirely of remixed content from old games.

While you are correct about it not outselling World, your reasoning is fairly off. It came out last August when there was only a few million Switches out there. Switch was selling out routinely so there was no chance Monster Hunter could boost sales. Lastly, it came out on 3DS as well in Japan. This fact alone ensured the sales would be limited as there are over 20 million 3DS users in Japan who would have 0 incentive to try fighting for a Switch to play Monster Hunter at that point.

The game has reviewed well and was received well in Japan. That tells me that you were just trolling with those comments. With all that said, I completely understand how the quality of life improvements and graphical upgrades will make going back to Monster Hunter on handheld seem like a terrible idea. I am one of the few people with the ability to go back to Generations Ultimate because I see it as the handheld version vs the full console version being on PC (or PS4/XBOX One). However, people that are looking for the comparable console experience from Generations Ultimate are likely going to be disappointed.



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