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Sounds amazing, I have to see this movie as soon as possible!



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the_dark_lewd said:
LuccaCardoso1 said:

Yup. Trump released him exactly for this. To brainwash people into thinking Trump is a hero. Dinesh made 4 movies: one attacking Obama with little to no proof, one praising the US as the greatest country in the world with little to no proof, one attacking Hillary Clinton with little to no proof and one praising Trump with little to no proof. What else can Trump ask for?

Your fact-checking skills rival D'Souzas.

D'Souza served jail time under Obama. He finished several years ago. Trump didn't "get him out" of anything. He simply pardoned him after-the-fact so it wouldn't be on his permanent record. It was a mostly meaningless gesture. 

 

LuccaCardoso1 said: 

Ever heard of American Sniper? It's a movie that could very well be considered imperialistic and militaristic propaganda, and it was directed by Clint Eastwood, publicly a Republican. American Sniper has a Metascore of 72.

Ever heard of Elite Squad: The Enemy Within? It's a movie that glamorizes violence and is clearly right-leaning. Metascore: 71.

Those are both fiction. There's a professional expectation that people can't simply review fiction badly because they disagree with the themes of it. 

D'Souzas films are political "documentaries". 

They are, by my reckoning, quite bad documentaries, but the 1% is quite clearly because of extreme political bias. Movie reviewers are almost entirely left-wing people. 

If they were reviewed impartially, they'd probably still get quite bad scores. But 1% is just blatant bias. It's the same kind of thing that lead to the Last Jedi getting 92% from the "professional" reviewers but only 45% from the audience. The reviewers are a group of people who all think alike.

Well actually he never did serve any jail time he got five year probation, eight month in a halfway house (not sure if actually did that time) and a $30,000 fine.



the_dark_lewd said: 
LuccaCardoso1 said: 

Ever heard of American Sniper? It's a movie that could very well be considered imperialistic and militaristic propaganda, and it was directed by Clint Eastwood, publicly a Republican. American Sniper has a Metascore of 72.

Ever heard of Elite Squad: The Enemy Within? It's a movie that glamorizes violence and is clearly right-leaning. Metascore: 71.

Those are both fiction.

D'Souzas films are political "documentaries". 

They are, by my reckoning, quite bad documentaries, but the 1% is quite clearly because of extreme political bias. Movie reviewers are almost entirely left-wing people. 

When do you draw the line between fiction and documentary? D'Souza calls them "documentaries", but there's not much truth in them. He basically puts together a bunch of conspiracy theories based on absolutely no factual information and calls it a "documentary". Pretending that false information is the truth is worthy of a 1/100 in my opinion.

They're not just bad movies that won't add anything to society, they're actively harmful to society. D'Souza is blatantly spreading false information disguised as truth.

the_dark_lewd said: 

There's a professional expectation that people can't simply review fiction badly because they disagree with the themes of it. 

That expectation is also true for documentaries or any other form of media. But D'Souza is not saying "Trump is good, society should be more conservative", he's saying "liberalism is the same as nazism" and "the Democrat party is just a bunch of nazis" in a "documentary". He didn't receive bad scores because he supports trump, he received bad scores because he's trying to polarize society even more than it already is by spreading lies.

the_dark_lewd said: 

It's the same kind of thing that lead to the Last Jedi getting 92% from the "professional" reviewers but only 45% from the audience.

No, it is not. First of all, I have no idea where you got this 92% number. It has 85/100 on Metacritic and 90% on Rotten Tomatoes. Second of all, it has those scores because it is a good, well-made movie. It's a technical marvel. Fans hated it because of what it did with the Star Wars universe, but critics have to rate a movie as a standalone piece of media. The critics don't have to consider the whole cinematic universe. They're rating a movie, not the impact it has on a franchise.

the_dark_lewd said: 

The reviewers are a group of people who all think alike.

This is incredibly stupid. Do you really believe that? Don't you think every movie would get either a great score or a terrible one if that was the case?

Let's analyze the 5 recent movies rated on Metacritic to see how you're wrong:

Mission Impossible: Fallout - Lowest Score: 50 / Highest Score: 100 / Range of Scores: 50 / Metascore: 86
Nico, 1988 -
LS: 60 / HS: 85 / RoS: 25 / Metascore: 73
The Miseducation of Cameron Post -
LS: 50 / HS: 100 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 70
The Darkest Minds -
LS: 25 / HS: 75 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 50
The Spy Who Dumped Me - 
LS: 25 / HS: 75 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 50

Critics think so differently among them that the highest score a movie gets is usually 50 points higher than the lowest scores. When you stop to really think about that, "reviewers are a group of people who all think alike" suddenly becomes an undoubtedly stupid thing to say.



B O I

Step aside, Uwe Boll. A new champion now stands below the rest.



the_dark_lewd said:

Your fact-checking skills rival D'Souzas.

D'Souza served jail time under Obama. He finished several years ago. Trump didn't "get him out" of anything. He simply pardoned him after-the-fact so it wouldn't be on his permanent record. It was a mostly meaningless gesture. 

 

Those are both fiction. There's a professional expectation that people can't simply review fiction badly because they disagree with the themes of it. 

D'Souzas films are political "documentaries". 

They are, by my reckoning, quite bad documentaries, but the 1% is quite clearly because of extreme political bias. Movie reviewers are almost entirely left-wing people. 

If they were reviewed impartially, they'd probably still get quite bad scores. But 1% is just blatant bias. It's the same kind of thing that lead to the Last Jedi getting 92% from the "professional" reviewers but only 45% from the audience. The reviewers are a group of people who all think alike.

That sounds kind of interesting and I wouldn't mind reading up on that.  What is your source?  Was there a survey or did this conclusion come from comprehensive research?  A chart would be great, if that's out there.  Er, I probably shouldn't have to say this, but I only care about sources that are as unbiased as possible.

You know, though, aren't "bad documentaries" just outright failures?  If this is really that awful, shouldn't it have a bad score from everyone?  Wouldn't bias be the opposite, where it has positive reviews despite being terrible?



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Question...does the Left just have better crazy directors, or do they just not make this sort of $h!t



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

KrspaceT said:
Question...does the Left just have better crazy directors, or do they just not make this sort of $h!t

Its a combination of both.  Plus they usually hire better actors.



LuccaCardoso1 said:
the_dark_lewd said: 

Those are both fiction.

D'Souzas films are political "documentaries". 

They are, by my reckoning, quite bad documentaries, but the 1% is quite clearly because of extreme political bias. Movie reviewers are almost entirely left-wing people. 

When do you draw the line between fiction and documentary? D'Souza calls them "documentaries", but there's not much truth in them. He basically puts together a bunch of conspiracy theories based on absolutely no factual information and calls it a "documentary". Pretending that false information is the truth is worthy of a 1/100 in my opinion.

They're not just bad movies that won't add anything to society, they're actively harmful to society. D'Souza is blatantly spreading false information disguised as truth.

the_dark_lewd said: 

There's a professional expectation that people can't simply review fiction badly because they disagree with the themes of it. 

That expectation is also true for documentaries or any other form of media. But D'Souza is not saying "Trump is good, society should be more conservative", he's saying "liberalism is the same as nazism" and "the Democrat party is just a bunch of nazis" in a "documentary". He didn't receive bad scores because he supports trump, he received bad scores because he's trying to polarize society even more than it already is by spreading lies.

the_dark_lewd said: 

It's the same kind of thing that lead to the Last Jedi getting 92% from the "professional" reviewers but only 45% from the audience.

No, it is not. First of all, I have no idea where you got this 92% number. It has 85/100 on Metacritic and 90% on Rotten Tomatoes. Second of all, it has those scores because it is a good, well-made movie. It's a technical marvel. Fans hated it because of what it did with the Star Wars universe, but critics have to rate a movie as a standalone piece of media. The critics don't have to consider the whole cinematic universe. They're rating a movie, not the impact it has on a franchise.

the_dark_lewd said: 

The reviewers are a group of people who all think alike.

This is incredibly stupid. Do you really believe that? Don't you think every movie would get either a great score or a terrible one if that was the case?

Let's analyze the 5 recent movies rated on Metacritic to see how you're wrong:

Mission Impossible: Fallout - Lowest Score: 50 / Highest Score: 100 / Range of Scores: 50 / Metascore: 86
Nico, 1988 -
LS: 60 / HS: 85 / RoS: 25 / Metascore: 73
The Miseducation of Cameron Post -
LS: 50 / HS: 100 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 70
The Darkest Minds -
LS: 25 / HS: 75 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 50
The Spy Who Dumped Me - 
LS: 25 / HS: 75 / RoS: 50 / Metascore: 50

Critics think so differently among them that the highest score a movie gets is usually 50 points higher than the lowest scores. When you stop to really think about that, "reviewers are a group of people who all think alike" suddenly becomes an undoubtedly stupid thing to say.

If viewed as a standalone film, "The Last Jedi" is still cinematic garbage.  A weak story with awful pacing, plot threads that go nowhere, and packed to the brim with juvenile humor that would normally be found in parodies like Blue Harvest or Robot Chicken as opposed to serious sci-fi fare.  If "The Last Jedi" were the first ever Star Wars film, there would be no Star Wars franchise at all.  Without an established franchise fanbase already built in to boost ticket sales on name alone, I have no doubt that the movie would have bombed.  As such, any planned sequels would have been cancelled immediately.  It would have joined the company of intended trilogies that ended after one film such as "The Golden Compass", "Eragon", and "Ender's Game". 



This guy's "films" are rated lower than Uwe Boll's and Aaron Seltzer/Jason Friedberg's.

Let.That.Sink.In.



LuccaCardoso1 said:
melbye said:

Of course this score has everything to do with the quality of the movie and not the political leanings of the people reviewing it.

Yeah sure because 100% of all journalists hate Trump and are dishonest enough to rate a movie based on political views instead of quality. Read one of the reviews, try to read one. You'll find out that the flaws of the movie surpass greatly just supporting Trump.

Ever heard of American Sniper? It's a movie that could very well be considered imperialistic and militaristic propaganda, and it was directed by Clint Eastwood, publicly a Republican. American Sniper has a Metascore of 72.

Ever heard of Elite Squad: The Enemy Within? It's a movie that glamorizes violence and is clearly right-leaning. Metascore: 71.

See how you can make a good movie defending right-oriented ideas? The thing is, Death of a Nation is not a good movie. Watch a PureFlix movie, you'll see how poorly made and poorly written they are. Those movies don't defend ideas with logical arguments, they try to brainwash people.

Bad movies dont get 1/100. they get 10, 20 or 30. This is a 1 due to political agendas.