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You guys are still debating over this?

It’s summer FFS, go swim in the pool, eat hamburgers, play video games, ANYTHING.



"Just for comparison Uncharted 4 was 20x bigger than Splatoon 2. This shows the huge difference between Sony's first-party games and Nintendo's first-party games."

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quickrick said:
Biggerboat1 said:

1) I don't disagree with this, apart from the fact that we don't know how much Nintendo's pricing policy effects sales. It's true their games sell well under the current pricing model, though they could sell even better if they changed to a model more similar to Sony / Microsoft.

2) Again, this thread isn't about cross-play. And again, comparing game prices to the surreptitious locking of a 3rd party account is disingenuous. If I perceive a game to be too pricey I can choose not to buy it. If I've unwittingly locked my account to PS4 there's literally nothing I can do to retrieve it.  One is a straight up choice for the consumer to make, the other is a malicious, underhanded move to screw Nintendo & MS at the expense of gamers, including Sony's own.

And the idea that 'if it ain't happening to me then it doesn't count' is a bit self-centred & very short-sighted. I don't play Fortnite at all but I can still damn this behaviour which is blatantly anti-gamer. Same with SWBF2, I've never played it but I can see how problematic EA's strategy was with that game. Just because these particular slimy moves haven't impacted you on this occasion, doesn't mean that they won't in the future, especially if they remain unchecked by us, the gamers.

It's like saying that if the government starts locking homeless people in detention centres, that you can't or shouldn't have a view if you have a home...

I'm sorry but i don't take gaming that seriously lol.

As for the lock account thing, sony will probably change that in the future, its most like a problem they didn't forthcoming  and sony and epic will get it fixed hopefully.

It's the same principal, that's what I'm getting at - as I think you are well aware.

And if you don't care because it doesn't effect you then why are you posting in this thread?



 

KLAMarine said: 
EricHiggin said: 

Could have to do with PUBG and it's deal with MS since it's competition

But MS and Nintendo are EG's business partners.

The MS business relationship with Epic wouldn't be near as close and important as PUBG though. PUBG is like what Playground Games was to MS up until they outright purchased them and MS wouldn't really want Fortnite to show up PUBG, especially on their own platform. With Nin it's like Epic is married to PS and is cheating here and there with Nin. Just look at COD on PS4 and BF on XB for marketing. They purposely take a side, just not entirely so they don't lose out on other platforms.

KLAMarine said: 

EricHiggin said: 

While for some people this seems like PS is the only one in trouble

A lot of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1N-TTwYIJw

Ya ok, but what about everyone else? It's not the norm for the people who don't care or are ok with the situation to make a fuss about it on YouTube or wherever. It's like election polls sometimes. Looks like it's pretty one sided one day, the next day you have no idea how the tables 'completely turned'.

KLAMarine said:

EricHiggin said: 

and this negative press being backed by MS and Nin.

Negative press that reflects badly on Sony, not Epic Games.

If a group of people today built an explosive device that was much more devastating than a nuke, and a certain Country was willing to pay for the rights to a key factor in that tech that was necessary for it to work fully as intended, but wouldn't exclude other Countries from getting most of the tech, and that group knew that certain Country was going build many devices and use them to hold the rest of the world hostage with their time advantage, who would be more at fault? The group that created it and sold it, or the certain Country who used a type of leverage to gain an advantage over it's rivals?  Epic is the device maker and PS is the certain Country.

KLAMarine said:

EricHiggin said: 

for others like myself, it means Epic is in more trouble than PS. If this negative press leads to MS and Nin gamers boycotting Fortnite at some level, then it wouldn't be a dumb idea for Epic to strengthen their locked down player base on PS4 to make up for those losses.

I suppose if you twist logic far enough, it could seem like Epic is in more trouble but it makes no sense for Epic to do this to their own playerbase and account holders. It makes sense why Sony would want to do this.

It also doesn't make sense why some woman can marry men who beat them or treat them like dirt. You can only assume sometimes that the fact he is super rich and she lives a life of luxury way more often than not, must be enough for her to deal with the negativity here and there. Is it right? Is it ok? Most would say no, but it's her life and her choice. It's Epic's game and it's their choice. If they are willing to take the 'abuse' from PS and/or the fans so they can live large, then so be it.

KLAMarine said:

EricHiggin said: 

There have also been rumors of PUBG coming to Switch, so all the more reason for Epic to perhaps double down on PS4 since PUBG doesn't and may never exist on that platform.

Or perhaps more reason for EG to not worry about Fortnite on PS4 since PUBG won't be coming to that platform and aim towards making sure X1 and Switch Fortnite players invest more time towards Fortnite than PUBG.

If that were the case, then why work on a Fortnite bundle for PS4? Why wouldn't they make bundles for XB and Nin instead? Probably because XB has PUBG and Switch may be getting it. With XB and Nin getting all cozy with Minecraft and cross play, it wouldn't be crazy to think Epic see's this and figures PUBG may end up the same between them. Why try and fight PUBG on other platforms while you have the entire PS4 platform to yourself?



So basically every tweet the official Playstation twitter account posts is just getting bombard with replies about the Epic Accounts and Cross Play.

https://twitter.com/PlayStation



Biggerboat1 said:
quickrick said:

I'm sorry but i don't take gaming that seriously lol.

As for the lock account thing, sony will probably change that in the future, its most like a problem they didn't forthcoming  and sony and epic will get it fixed hopefully.

It's the same principal, that's what I'm getting at - as I think you are well aware.

And if you don't care because it doesn't effect you then why are you posting in this thread?

I'm just posting cause my fortnite bundle thread was locked down because of this. other wise i wouldn't even have posted.



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It honestly feels like Sony got away with this one. Mainstream media moving on and a vocal minority who imo mostly don't game or intend to game on ps4 still carrying it on. Can't see epic or Sony budging on this.



Nuvendil said:

So is PS going to allow cross accounts but make up the difference by selling Fortnite bundles, or is this because Fortnite now owes PS due to the recent backlash that's being kept hush hush for whatever reason, or is PS and/or Epic simply throwing this in MS and Nin's faces to spite them?

It's a confirmation that both sides are in perfect relationship and nobody is bothered by this cross-platform stuff.

Why nobody is asking Epic about comments ? Where are their comments on this ? Nowhere. They want to wait till this topic dies, it will take like 2 weeks I guess. 

The only bad thing is that exclusive skin and digital currency is now worth to make a bundle,tho.



EricHiggin said:
KLAMarine said: 

But MS and Nintendo are EG's business partners.

The MS business relationship with Epic wouldn't be near as close and important as PUBG though. PUBG is like what Playground Games was to MS up until they outright purchased them and MS wouldn't really want Fortnite to show up PUBG, especially on their own platform. With Nin it's like Epic is married to PS and is cheating here and there with Nin. Just look at COD on PS4 and BF on XB for marketing. They purposely take a side, just not entirely so they don't lose out on other platforms.

KLAMarine said: 

A lot of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1N-TTwYIJw

Ya ok, but what about everyone else? It's not the norm for the people who don't care or are ok with the situation to make a fuss about it on YouTube or wherever. It's like election polls sometimes. Looks like it's pretty one sided one day, the next day you have no idea how the tables 'completely turned'.

KLAMarine said:

Negative press that reflects badly on Sony, not Epic Games.

If a group of people today built an explosive device that was much more devastating than a nuke, and a certain Country was willing to pay for the rights to a key factor in that tech that was necessary for it to work fully as intended, but wouldn't exclude other Countries from getting most of the tech, and that group knew that certain Country was going build many devices and use them to hold the rest of the world hostage with their time advantage, who would be more at fault? The group that created it and sold it, or the certain Country who used a type of leverage to gain an advantage over it's rivals?  Epic is the device maker and PS is the certain Country.

KLAMarine said:

I suppose if you twist logic far enough, it could seem like Epic is in more trouble but it makes no sense for Epic to do this to their own playerbase and account holders. It makes sense why Sony would want to do this.

It also doesn't make sense why some woman can marry men who beat them or treat them like dirt. You can only assume sometimes that the fact he is super rich and she lives a life of luxury way more often than not, must be enough for her to deal with the negativity here and there. Is it right? Is it ok? Most would say no, but it's her life and her choice. It's Epic's game and it's their choice. If they are willing to take the 'abuse' from PS and/or the fans so they can live large, then so be it.

KLAMarine said:

Or perhaps more reason for EG to not worry about Fortnite on PS4 since PUBG won't be coming to that platform and aim towards making sure X1 and Switch Fortnite players invest more time towards Fortnite than PUBG.

If that were the case, then why work on a Fortnite bundle for PS4? Why wouldn't they make bundles for XB and Nin instead? Probably because XB has PUBG and Switch may be getting it. With XB and Nin getting all cozy with Minecraft and cross play, it wouldn't be crazy to think Epic see's this and figures PUBG may end up the same between them. Why try and fight PUBG on other platforms while you have the entire PS4 platform to yourself?

"The MS business relationship with Epic wouldn't be near as close and important as PUBG though. PUBG is like what Playground Games was to MS up until they outright purchased them and MS wouldn't really want Fortnite to show up PUBG, especially on their own platform."

>Well I'm seeing opportunity: a chance for Epic Games, Nintendo, and Microsoft to slam Sony for their policy.

"Ya ok, but what about everyone else? It's not the norm for the people who don't care or are ok with the situation to make a fuss about it on YouTube or wherever. It's like election polls sometimes. Looks like it's pretty one sided one day, the next day you have no idea how the tables 'completely turned'."

>I'm sure there's a divide but it's never good for business to have such a divide. Never good for business to piss some people off, they might spread their negativity to others.

"If a group of people today built an explosive device that was much more devastating than a nuke, and a certain Country was willing to pay for the rights to a key factor in that tech that was necessary for it to work fully as intended, but wouldn't exclude other Countries from getting most of the tech, and that group knew that certain Country was going build many devices and use them to hold the rest of the world hostage with their time advantage, who would be more at fault? The group that created it and sold it, or the certain Country who used a type of leverage to gain an advantage over it's rivals?  Epic is the device maker and PS is the certain Country."

>I don't see the need for this metaphor but I'll play along: the country that used its leverage to impose its anti-consumer will and abduct any accounts that associated with them is at fault.

"If that were the case, then why work on a Fortnite bundle for PS4?"

>Sony's paying for it?

"Why wouldn't they make bundles for XB and Nin instead? Probably because XB has PUBG and Switch may be getting it. With XB and Nin getting all cozy with Minecraft and cross play, it wouldn't be crazy to think Epic see's this and figures PUBG may end up the same between them. Why try and fight PUBG on other platforms while you have the entire PS4 platform to yourself?"

>Because PS4 does not have PUBG. Epic Games doesn't have to try as hard on PS4 than they do on X1. Switch doesn't have PUBG either.

animegaming said:
So basically every tweet the official Playstation twitter account posts is just getting bombard with replies about the Epic Accounts and Cross Play.

https://twitter.com/PlayStation

Good.



As PS4, Switch, and Gaming PC owner this is nice to know. I don't plan to play Fortnite, but in the future I'd like to be able to play my games on both PC and Switch. So this tells me never to allow any third party accounts onto my PS4 without checking to see if there are irreversible effects due to Sony's policies.

It seems like each platform-manufacturer takes one step forward and two step back when it comes to consumer-friendliness. If I were one of the people who spent hundreds of dollars on this game to have my account locked to certain platforms, I'd be looking into a class-action lawsuit.

Last edited by sc94597 - on 23 June 2018

sc94597 said:

As PS4, Switch, and Gaming PC owner this is nice to know. I don't plan to play Fortnite, but in the future I'd like to be able to play my games on both PC and Switch. So this tells me never to allow any third party accounts onto my PS4 without checking to see if there are irreversible effects due to Sony's policies.

It seems like each platform-manufacturer takes one step forward and two step backs when it comes to consumer-friendliness. If I were one of the people who spent hundreds of dollars on this game to have my account locked to certain platforms, I'd be looking into a class-action lawsuit.

Knowledge is power.