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Player of the Tournament?

Denis Cheryshev (Russia) 0 0.00%
 
Thibaut Courtois (Belgium) 2 10.00%
 
Diego Godin (Uruguay) 1 5.00%
 
Eden Hazard (Belgium) 2 10.00%
 
Harry Kane (England) 0 0.00%
 
Kylian Mbappe (France) 5 25.00%
 
Luka Modric (Croatia) 9 45.00%
 
Ivan Perisic (Croatia) 0 0.00%
 
Raphael Varane (France) 1 5.00%
 
Other 0 0.00%
 
Total:20
RolStoppable said:
The scoring system is quite top-heavy and it has a hole in the knockout stage. I would have gone with something like 10 points each for correct round of 16 teams (160 points), quarter finalists (80 points), semifinalists (40), finalists (20) and World Cup winner (10), plus 5 points for the Third Place. What bothers me is that your scoring system has no points from quarter finals until final while the World Cup winner is assigned with lots of points. This makes the outcome of the contest very dependent on predicting the World Cup winner correctly while doing well in other categories doesn't matter all that much. My suggested system would award 50 points for the World Cup winner due to stacking of points throughout the knockout stage (5x10) while getting quarterfinalists and semifinalists right would also mean something.

How many points you want to hand out for each prediction is up to you, but quarter finals to participants in the final should be worth something. The rest of the rules is very coherent and comprehensive, but the scoring system isn't. I wouldn't assign increasing point rewards throughout the tournament, because keeping the same 10 points for each round already creates a stacking effect.

I'm happy to change the scoring system if people would prefer something different. There are the points for individual match predictions still, so there's not absolutely nothing between group stage and the final at the moment. I'm also not keen on the idea of predicting the knockout stages at the same time as group stages/winner simply due to how different the knockout stages could end up from early predictions.

What do you think about having separate knockout stage predictions after the group stage (with the deadline being the first match of the knockout stage)? That gives everybody a chance to get those right even if they picked the wrong teams to get through the group stage.

I also like the idea of predicting the tournament winner before anything even kicks off to be worth more. So what do you think about 20pts for tournament winner (if predicted before world cup starts), 10pts for Golden Boot winner (pre-World Cup predictions only) 10pts for each quarter finalist, semi finalist, finalist & winner (except those who get 20pts for the winner).

Edit: Offering 10pts for the pre-tournament winner prediction as well as 10pts for the knockout stage winner prediction (with them stacking up if the same team is predicted in both) could be an alternative method than 20 or 10 for the winner. Gives people the option of doubling up their points by sticking to their original prediction, or changing their prediction and having two possibilities at 10pts for the winner rather than 1 chance at 20pts.

BraLoD said:

No predictions for anything should be allowed by the time the first game starts. (Just a second round after the first stage is over)
Also you should account points for guessing the order of the group winners as well.

Based on the second round comment it seems you think there should be separate knockout stage predictions as well? See my proposal above and let me know what you think.

I definitely do want there to be predictions for each individual match as well though and there's really no reason not to allow them after the tournament starts. They've been a staple of previous tournament prediction leagues and it makes it interesting throughout the tournament if people keep predicting match results. The bulk of the points will almost certainly come from the individual match predictions but I do think somebody that is actively predicting correct match results throughout the tournament should do well (or even win) the league.

As for points for guessing the group winners too, well there is the issue that people who've already predicted may have done them in any order rather than 1/2. What do you think about 1 bonus points for each group winner? A bit of a token gesture, but I don't want people who got both teams right, but the order wrong, to be disadvantaged too much.

 

If anybody else doesn't want these things to change or has any other suggestions, I'm happy to hear them

Last edited by Ka-pi96 - on 01 June 2018

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Ka-pi96 said:
RolStoppable said:
The scoring system is quite top-heavy and it has a hole in the knockout stage. I would have gone with something like 10 points each for correct round of 16 teams (160 points), quarter finalists (80 points), semifinalists (40), finalists (20) and World Cup winner (10), plus 5 points for the Third Place. What bothers me is that your scoring system has no points from quarter finals until final while the World Cup winner is assigned with lots of points. This makes the outcome of the contest very dependent on predicting the World Cup winner correctly while doing well in other categories doesn't matter all that much. My suggested system would award 50 points for the World Cup winner due to stacking of points throughout the knockout stage (5x10) while getting quarterfinalists and semifinalists right would also mean something.

How many points you want to hand out for each prediction is up to you, but quarter finals to participants in the final should be worth something. The rest of the rules is very coherent and comprehensive, but the scoring system isn't. I wouldn't assign increasing point rewards throughout the tournament, because keeping the same 10 points for each round already creates a stacking effect.

I'm happy to change the scoring system if people would prefer something different. There are the points for individual match predictions still, so there's not absolutely nothing between group stage and the final at the moment. I'm also not keen on the idea of predicting the knockout stages at the same time as group stages/winner simply due to how different the knockout stages could end up from early predictions.

What do you think about having separate knockout stage predictions after the group stage (with the deadline being the first match of the knockout stage)? That gives everybody a chance to get those right even if they picked the wrong teams to get through the group stage.

I also like the idea of predicting the tournament winner before anything even kicks off to be worth more. So what do you think about 20pts for tournament winner (if predicted before world cup starts), 10pts for Golden Boot winner (pre-World Cup predictions only) 10pts for each quarter finalist, semi finalist, finalist & winner (except those who get 20pts for the winner).

BraLoD said:

No predictions for anything should be allowed by the time the first game starts. (Just a second round after the first stage is over)
Also you should account points for guessing the order of the group winners as well.

Based on the second round comment it seems you think there should be separate knockout stage predictions as well? See my proposal above and let me know what you think.

I definitely do want there to be predictions for each individual match as well though and there's really no reason not to allow them after the tournament starts. They've been a staple of previous tournament prediction leagues and it makes it interesting throughout the tournament if people keep predicting match results. The bulk of the points will almost certainly come from the individual match predictions but I do think somebody that is actively predicting correct match results throughout the tournament should do well (or even win) the league.

As for points for guessing the group winners too, well there is the issue that people who've already predicted may have done them in any order rather than 1/2. What do you think about 1 bonus points for each group winner? A bit of a token gesture, but I don't want people who got both teams right, but the order wrong, to be disadvantaged too much.

 

If anybody else doesn't want these things to change or has any other suggestions, I'm happy to hear them

Sounds good, except I thinking predicting every match result is just too much, so if it keeps up for the knockout stage (that second round and up, right?) that seems nice.

I said I don't think people should be allowed to vote for this you already set for the first round, because they would have an advantage, even if worth less points.

So if this is it until the first match, then then the first round is over you start a new round that accounts for the knockout round with match results also point worth, that seems nice, but would you add a new predictio round for each stage? (Quarters, semi, finals)



BraLoD said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I'm happy to change the scoring system if people would prefer something different. There are the points for individual match predictions still, so there's not absolutely nothing between group stage and the final at the moment. I'm also not keen on the idea of predicting the knockout stages at the same time as group stages/winner simply due to how different the knockout stages could end up from early predictions.

What do you think about having separate knockout stage predictions after the group stage (with the deadline being the first match of the knockout stage)? That gives everybody a chance to get those right even if they picked the wrong teams to get through the group stage.

I also like the idea of predicting the tournament winner before anything even kicks off to be worth more. So what do you think about 20pts for tournament winner (if predicted before world cup starts), 10pts for Golden Boot winner (pre-World Cup predictions only) 10pts for each quarter finalist, semi finalist, finalist & winner (except those who get 20pts for the winner).

Based on the second round comment it seems you think there should be separate knockout stage predictions as well? See my proposal above and let me know what you think.

I definitely do want there to be predictions for each individual match as well though and there's really no reason not to allow them after the tournament starts. They've been a staple of previous tournament prediction leagues and it makes it interesting throughout the tournament if people keep predicting match results. The bulk of the points will almost certainly come from the individual match predictions but I do think somebody that is actively predicting correct match results throughout the tournament should do well (or even win) the league.

As for points for guessing the group winners too, well there is the issue that people who've already predicted may have done them in any order rather than 1/2. What do you think about 1 bonus points for each group winner? A bit of a token gesture, but I don't want people who got both teams right, but the order wrong, to be disadvantaged too much.

 

If anybody else doesn't want these things to change or has any other suggestions, I'm happy to hear them

Sounds good, except I thinking predicting every match result is just too much, so if it keeps up for the knockout stage (that second round and up, right?) that seems nice.

I said I don't think people should be allowed to vote for this you already set for the first round, because they would have an advantage, even if worth less points.

So if this is it until the first match, then then the first round is over you start a new round that accounts for the knockout round with match results also point worth, that seems nice, but would you add a new predictio round for each stage? (Quarters, semi, finals)

I'm not sure what you mean in your 2nd sentence. @bold that's covered by individual match predictions. So you'd predict top 2 teams for the group stage (as well as your pre-tournament pick for winner/golden boot). Then after the group stage ends the quarter/semi/finalist/winners all at once before the knockout stage starts. But you're also predicting the individual matches as it goes along, which gives you something to predict during the group stage, and you can also pick up points for the knockout stage matches even if your original picks to progress didn't make it.

Plus with the individual matches you don't have to predict them all in advance (you can if you're a masochist though ). You could just post who you think will win and what the score will be on a day by day basis.



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Tournament winner: Argentina
Golden Boot winner: Cristiano Ronaldo
Group A: Uruguay & Egypt
Group B: Spain & Portugal
Group C: France & Australia
Group D: Argentina & Croatia
Group E: Brazil & Costa Rica
Group F: Germany & Mexico
Group G: Belgium & England
Group H: Colombia & Senegal

Group A: Uruguay & Egypt
Group B: Spain & Portugal
Group C: France & Peru
Group D: Argentina & Croatia
Group E: Brazil & Switzerland
Group F: Germany & Mexico
Group G: Belgium & England
Group H: Poland & Colombia

Tournament Winner: Germany
Golden Boot Winner: Romelu Lokaku, I think he's going to have a field day with Panama and Tunisia.


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Really don't care for international footy, have no idea who is in each squad, what kind of form anyone is in, who can play who after group qualification. Nevertheless, here are my predictions:

Winner: Germany
Golden boot winner: Muller

Group A: Uruguay, Russia
Group B: Spain, Portugal
Group C: France, Denmark
Group D: Argentina, Croatia
Group E: Brazil, Switzerland
Group F: Germany, Mexico
Group G: Belgium, England
Group H: Poland, Colombia

Group A: Russia, Uruguay
Group B: Spain, Iran
Group C: Australia, Denmark
Group D: Argentina, Iceland
Group E: Brazil, Costa Rica
Group F: Germany, Sweden
Group G: Belgium, England
Group H: Colombia, Poland

Group A - Uruguay and Russia
Group B - Spain and Portugal
Group C - France and Australia
Group D - Argentina and Nigeria
Group E - Brazil and Switzerland
Group F - Germany and Mexico
Group G - England and Belgium
Group H - Colombia and Poland

Winner - Brazil
Golden Boot - Griezmann

Tournament winner: Brazil
Golden Boot winner: Sadio Mané

Group A: Uruguay & Russia (because Sergio Ramos)
Group B: Spain & Portugal
Group C: France & Denmark
Group D: Croatia & Argentina
Group E: Brazil & Switzerland
Group F: Germany & Mexico
Group G: England & Belgium
Group H: Colombia & Senegal



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