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Elon Musk to take on the media? Can "Pravda" work?

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Can Pravda work?

Yes. 7 26.92%
 
No. 14 53.85%
 
Maybe, I haven't thought much about into it. 5 19.23%
 
Other/comments/middle America... 0 0.00%
 
Total:26

Yes politifact.com is a good site, USA centered only though
or do you disagree John2290?



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Machine-learning would have to do this, and then we would all probably die of incompetence.



Pravda. ... Pravda (Russian: Правда, IPA: [ˈpravdə] ( listen), "Truth") is a Russian broadsheet newspaper, formerly the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, when it was one of the most influential papers in the country with a circulation of 11 million

Wonder how long before the media starts spinning Elon into Russiagate and gets a visit from Mueller?



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EricHiggin said:
Pravda. ... Pravda (Russian: Правда, IPA: [ˈpravdə] ( listen), "Truth") is a Russian broadsheet newspaper, formerly the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, when it was one of the most influential papers in the country with a circulation of 11 million

Wonder how long before the media starts spinning Elon into Russiagate and gets a visit from Mueller?

It was a joke, hence the quotations :)



 

Why would you trust the public any more than you trust the media? I mean, the idea sounds good in theory, but how on earth would you make it work?

Also, while the idea seems good, his (presumed from what he wrote) motivation for this rant is petty. Complaining about the media reporting accidents related to Teslas autopilot feature? Sure, maybe automotive accidents don't really belong on national news, but there has been a lot of public interest in autonomous vehicles lately, and Tesla isn't the only one under scrutiny...

I love the work Musk does with SpaceX, Tesla, OpenAI and more, but sometimes I wonder wether he's a huge jerk underneath, or at least rather immature. He threw a similar hissy fit at the last Tesla investor conference call when some of the analyst questions were becoming difficult (difficult as in trying to find out how Tesla plans to solve its cash situation).



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Musk is just as "loose" with the truth as any of the news outlets. The reality is he is just having a bit of a tantrum as lately the press has highlighted his failures rather than successes, but then that is what happens when you court the press the way he does, yes he gets great coverage for successes, equally though it magnifies the attention of any negatives.

The only thing you can be certain of with this site is it will only show Musk's version of the truth, which is usually at best painted through his rose coloured glasses or quite often an outright lie.



John2290 said:
EricHiggin said:
Pravda. ... Pravda (Russian: Правда, IPA: [ˈpravdə] ( listen), "Truth") is a Russian broadsheet newspaper, formerly the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, when it was one of the most influential papers in the country with a circulation of 11 million

Wonder how long before the media starts spinning Elon into Russiagate and gets a visit from Mueller?

It was a joke, hence the quotations :)

Joke or not, feeding the roaring spinning fire that is the media, is only asking for trouble eventually if they ever decide you need to be "dealt with".

Unless of course his idea works. Can't wait to watch MNN (Martian News Network).



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True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
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From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
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A rating site based on how much a media outlet fucks up isn't going to suddenly change the world over night people in a positive or negative way. So why would it be a bad idea to try it?

Maybe it'll give incentive for outlets to be more factual and less likely to alter news on the fly. The idea isn't about rating the news or single publications its about the sites and outlets themselves. I think people are misunderstanding the concept here.
I can't see how having stats along with a general public consensus would be a bad thing. It's just another choice. I see media outlets making the same arguments as people in this thread and they are weak arguments.



 

I honestly think it would be fairly accurate, but I also think

1)It's extremely vulnerable to abuse in the form of hacking and botnets. I know Elon has stated he'd take those into account, but that's not exactly easy.

2)People would accuse it of having a political bias if and when it doesn't share their opinion. It doesn't matter how good an article is, if something runs contrary to someone's belief, that person will deny it's source's legitimacy until the facts become undeniable. Just look at flat-earthers...



There is honest and respectable media today that tells the truth. It doesn't matter where it comes from, it's just gonna be ignored if it doesn't fit in certain people's agenda. There are popular sites today that call out lies and they are labeled "fake news".

If anything it will make the lie peddlers even stronger. Because now they have a central platform where they can call out news reports that were fake and instantly disregard a whole news organization because of one little honest mistake. You know, kinda how it is right now.

What Elon forgets is that this is a tool for both sides and whoever uses it louder wins. Guess who's louder, truths or lies.



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