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Forums - Politics Discussion - Elon Musk to take on the media? Can "Pravda" work?

 

Can Pravda work?

Yes. 7 26.92%
 
No. 14 53.85%
 
Maybe, I haven't thought much about into it. 5 19.23%
 
Other/comments/middle America... 0 0%
 
Total:26

It'll crash and burn.
Just like his Model 3 production.



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EricHiggin said:
Pravda. ... Pravda (Russian: Правда, IPA: [ˈpravdə] ( listen), "Truth") is a Russian broadsheet newspaper, formerly the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, when it was one of the most influential papers in the country with a circulation of 11 million

Reminds me of an old soviet saying: "There's no news in truth, and no truth in news", with truth and news being the 2 main ( and for the most part only) news outlets of the soviet union. Which isn't far from the truth, since everything was censored back then



John2290 said:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/31065/elon-musk-slams-media-twitter-offers-create-frank-camp

Thank you to Aeolus451 for the article.

A LOT, like most of the media aren't picking this up, I think for obvious reasons, they don't want to Streisand effect this but it seems the Musk wants to go hard in on the media and fix it. The fact that no media are reporting on this is a sign they are running scared.

The man sees a global problem and he can't seem to act. To be honest, I used to think this guy was a bit of a Zukerberg but after the last two years and looking at what he has done in the past I see only a man who had slight autism when he was young, made millions from the tech industry and over his life has only wanted to create a better world and I don't think, beyond basic human instincts, the man has a bad bone in his body.

This man is a legend, I've seen the idea pushed many times in the past but maybe Musk can bring it in as others have failed. Perhaps the Tesla of the 21st century but with enough public support not to get pushed aside or destroyed by competitors. 

I;m not gay but I'd suck Musks dick if he asked. 

He was more joking anyway, but he definitely seems more dangerous than expected, after this comment.

The media probably can't be trusted, but the uninformed, circlejerking and easy to manipulate public is even worse.

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John2290 said:
A rating site based on how much a media outlet fucks up isn't going to suddenly change the world over night people in a positive or negative way. So why would it be a bad idea to try it?

Maybe it'll give incentive for outlets to be more factual and less likely to alter news on the fly. The idea isn't about rating the news or single publications its about the sites and outlets themselves. I think people are misunderstanding the concept here.
I can't see how having stats along with a general public consensus would be a bad thing. It's just another choice. I see media outlets making the same arguments as people in this thread and they are weak arguments.

It would surely not be a bad idea to try.

Metacritic also works on a grand scale and even if some users outright lie and give dumb scores even then you are able to see what the good and the bad games are.

And this will give journalists some flack when they blatantly spread fake news like lets say the pewdiepie fiasco.

So in a way it might refrain them from being dishonest.

Im all for this



John2290 said:

Okay, he has them running scared. Their like an animal backed into a corner. The fact that they are lashing this hard against a slight suggestion, even a joking suggestion their must be something to this idea, joke or not.

Tim Pool gathered a good chunk of what the media are acting at after this.

Its insane how they allready start to compare him with trump to put him in a bad spotlight.



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Teeqoz said:
Why would you trust the public any more than you trust the media? I mean, the idea sounds good in theory, but how on earth would you make it work?

Also, while the idea seems good, his (presumed from what he wrote) motivation for this rant is petty. Complaining about the media reporting accidents related to Teslas autopilot feature? Sure, maybe automotive accidents don't really belong on national news, but there has been a lot of public interest in autonomous vehicles lately, and Tesla isn't the only one under scrutiny...

I love the work Musk does with SpaceX, Tesla, OpenAI and more, but sometimes I wonder wether he's a huge jerk underneath, or at least rather immature. He threw a similar hissy fit at the last Tesla investor conference call when some of the analyst questions were becoming difficult (difficult as in trying to find out how Tesla plans to solve its cash situation).

I think it's supposed to work like Wikipedia with sourcing or metacritic with reviews. If journalists or news organizations routinely report false or heavily biased information, they should be rated negatively for it. 



John2290 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Its insane how they allready start to compare him with trump to put him in a bad spotlight.

Just proving his point, I hope this backfires to all hell on them.

I really really hope it does, its hard to even convince my own family that fake news exist and alot of them are pretty openminded.

I have seen other good people go down because of these slandering practices,i hope a good chunk of the media tries to be honest takes it up for him.

And i hope that the Media that slanders him gets finally taken to court, if one person has a chance to take it up with them it must be Musk.



There are already very good "INDEPENDENT" groups that do this, i.e. ones that don't have the bias that Musk brings. In Australia "Media Watch" has been doing this for years and they do a very good job of it. The reality though is most people just don't care about finding out the truth and a site run by someone as twisted as Musk would be just as bad as any of the media.



nanarchy said:
There are already very good "INDEPENDENT" groups that do this, i.e. ones that don't have the bias that Musk brings. In Australia "Media Watch" has been doing this for years and they do a very good job of it. The reality though is most people just don't care about finding out the truth and a site run by someone as twisted as Musk would be just as bad as any of the media.

And why do you think hes twisted?

It would not be a site like you are describing here, it would be something like metacritic or rotten tomatoes so if he is twisted like you say then his involvement would not have to effect the scores of articles.



Immersiveunreality said:
nanarchy said:
There are already very good "INDEPENDENT" groups that do this, i.e. ones that don't have the bias that Musk brings. In Australia "Media Watch" has been doing this for years and they do a very good job of it. The reality though is most people just don't care about finding out the truth and a site run by someone as twisted as Musk would be just as bad as any of the media.

And why do you think hes twisted?

It would not be a site like you are describing here, it would be something like metacritic or rotten tomatoes so if he is twisted like you say then his involvement would not have to effect the scores of articles.

He happily bends or twists the truth to meet his own agenda, you only have to look at much of what he is calling unfair or fake news, much of it is quite factual, he just doesn't like it being the centre of attention.  A site that allowed the public to vote would be completely useless, the media definitely has its own agenda, but that is nothing compared to the bias present in the average fan (be it for or against), to think such a system would have any hope of demonstrating anything is idiotic. The only thing it would demonstrate is why such a site can't work.