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o_O.Q said:
VGPolyglot said:

OK, if you won't answer him maybe you'll answer me. Do you believe there is a rape culture in the west?

i believe there are many examples of media normalising sexual aggression

examples that come to mind would be literature like 50 shades of grey and rap music

the latter ironically enough never seems to come under criticism by the groups who are supposedly trying to stop the rape culture(and is as popular as ever) and the former topped best seller lists(selling particularly well among women)

 

"You and your husband have a fight

One of you tries to grab a knife
And during the struggle he accidentally gets his Adams apple sliced
(No!)
And while this is goin' on
His son just woke up and he just walks in
She panics and he gets his throat cut
(Oh my God!)
So now they both dead and you slash your own throat
So now it's double homicide and suicide with no note
I should have known better when you started to act weird
We could've, hey! where you going? get back here!
You can't run from me Kim
It's just us, nobody else!
You're only making this harder on yourself
Ha! ha! got you!
(Ah!)
Ha! go ahead yell!
Here I'll scream with you!
Ah somebody help!
Don't you get it bitch, no one can hear you?
Now shut the fuck up and get what's comin' to you
You were supposed to love me
Now bleed! bitch bleed!
Bleed! bitch bleed! bleed!
So long, bitch you did me so wrong
I don't want to go on
Living in this world without you"

 

https://djbooth.net/features/2017-02-15-feminists-can-love-rap

https://thedebrief.co.uk/things-to-do/music/can-rap-fan-feminist/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/9459779/50-Shades-of-Grey-is-best-selling-book-of-all-time.html

https://townhall.com/columnists/katherineblakeman/2017/11/13/why-is-fifty-shades-freed-glamorizing-sexual-violence-in-a-metoo-culture-n2408835

but regardless yes sexual aggression is clearly normalised in much of our media

Ummmm the lyrics you quoted are not about sexual aggression they are about kim cheating and him being angry at her about it, them having a fight and eventually them and their son dying. I don;t know which part of that is sexual aggression? Also if you can't joke about something, that means there's a problem right there. Making subjects taboo only worsens the situation. The West  is not a rape culture. The oversexualized media is your own doing. This notion of freedom=nudity in western women is counter productive in so many ways. Also when you start making a fuss about smaller issues people get tired of the subject and ignore the bigger issues. Cat calling is not rape nor is it sexual assault. If you make too much noise about cat calling people will stop taking all of it seriously. 



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This a terrible reflection of the immoral, evil world that we all live in today. I like to watch re-runs of Bewitched, I Dream Of Jeanie and Leave it to Beaver and remember the good days when life was so much better than the terrible world we live in today.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
This a terrible reflection of the immoral, evil world that we all live in today. I like to watch re-runs of Bewitched, I Dream Of Jeanie and Leave it to Beaver and remember the good days when life was so much better than the terrible world we live in today.

Sorry, but these TV series were never a representation of the real life, they were a fantasy so the viewers could fell better.

50 years ago many doctors thought “wife beating” was therapeutic. An article in the issue of TIME dated 50 years ago today — Sept. 25, 1964 — highlights a mind-boggling study that concludes couples stay in abusive relationships because their fighting can “balance out each other’s mental quirks.”

http://time.com/3426225/domestic-violence-therapy/



Well before people stayed together for the children even when they were so unhappy. Lucky a lot of people are free from the power of the churches and don't have to get forced into marriage.






Eagle367 said:
o_O.Q said:

i believe there are many examples of media normalising sexual aggression

examples that come to mind would be literature like 50 shades of grey and rap music

the latter ironically enough never seems to come under criticism by the groups who are supposedly trying to stop the rape culture(and is as popular as ever) and the former topped best seller lists(selling particularly well among women)

 

"You and your husband have a fight

One of you tries to grab a knife
And during the struggle he accidentally gets his Adams apple sliced
(No!)
And while this is goin' on
His son just woke up and he just walks in
She panics and he gets his throat cut
(Oh my God!)
So now they both dead and you slash your own throat
So now it's double homicide and suicide with no note
I should have known better when you started to act weird
We could've, hey! where you going? get back here!
You can't run from me Kim
It's just us, nobody else!
You're only making this harder on yourself
Ha! ha! got you!
(Ah!)
Ha! go ahead yell!
Here I'll scream with you!
Ah somebody help!
Don't you get it bitch, no one can hear you?
Now shut the fuck up and get what's comin' to you
You were supposed to love me
Now bleed! bitch bleed!
Bleed! bitch bleed! bleed!
So long, bitch you did me so wrong
I don't want to go on
Living in this world without you"

 

https://djbooth.net/features/2017-02-15-feminists-can-love-rap

https://thedebrief.co.uk/things-to-do/music/can-rap-fan-feminist/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/9459779/50-Shades-of-Grey-is-best-selling-book-of-all-time.html

https://townhall.com/columnists/katherineblakeman/2017/11/13/why-is-fifty-shades-freed-glamorizing-sexual-violence-in-a-metoo-culture-n2408835

but regardless yes sexual aggression is clearly normalised in much of our media

Ummmm the lyrics you quoted are not about sexual aggression they are about kim cheating and him being angry at her about it, them having a fight and eventually them and their son dying. I don;t know which part of that is sexual aggression? Also if you can't joke about something, that means there's a problem right there. Making subjects taboo only worsens the situation. The West  is not a rape culture. The oversexualized media is your own doing. This notion of freedom=nudity in western women is counter productive in so many ways. Also when you start making a fuss about smaller issues people get tired of the subject and ignore the bigger issues. Cat calling is not rape nor is it sexual assault. If you make too much noise about cat calling people will stop taking all of it seriously. 

he kills kim because she rejects him for another man

"You were supposed to love me

Now bleed! bitch bleed!
Bleed! bitch bleed! bleed!"

his actions are sexually motivated

 

"Also if you can't joke about something, that means there's a problem right there."

um... the point i'm making is that feminists never criticism the appalling objectification and violence against women described by rap songs and it just shows such a glaring inconsistency that i struggle to understand it



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Most people today have been brainwashed by the media, TV/films, Internet, smart phones and social media addiction. People do not think for themselves and blindly follow what is cool on social media. People have become obedient slaves through technology that controls their lives. No surprise there has been an increase in the breakdown of the family unit and divorce rates in the US are amongst the highest in the world. The good old days of strong family and low divorce rates are long gone.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Most people today have been brainwashed by the media, TV/films, Internet, smart phones and social media addiction. People do not think for themselves and blindly follow what is cool on social media. People have become obedient slaves through technology that controls their lives. No surprise there has been an increase in the breakdown of the family unit and divorce rates in the US are amongst the highest in the world. The good old days of strong family and low divorce rates are long gone.

Let's go back to the good old days of interracial relationships being taboo.  One could also expect blacks to cross the street and go to other side if they so happen to encounter a white person such as myself coming down the sidewalk.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and go join an Amish community before technology drains your soul. 

Last edited by sethnintendo - on 15 April 2018

I wonder if the rise in homelessness is caused the the decay of family structures?



numberwang said:

I wonder if the rise in homelessness is caused the the decay of family structures?

 

I wonder if the rise in harp seal populations is caused by the decay of family structures?



the-pi-guy said:
numberwang said:

I wonder if the rise in homelessness is caused the the decay of family structures?

Or maybe it has to do with the rise of housing costs...  

Surveys show the following reasons: "eviction; doubled-up or severely overcrowded housing; domestic violence; job loss; and hazardous housing conditions" led to homelessness.

I guess we got to put our Japanese to use!

https://happybanana.info/?p=15036