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AngryLittleAlchemist on 04 April 2018
TranceformerFX said:

@TranceformerFX

"I don't hate Black Panthers black cast, I hate that it's celebrated BECAUSE it has a black cast - and not because of the quality of the film itself. It's lauded for it's political identity, and not it's movie quality. It's a box office success because of it's cultural hype, and not because it had revolutionary VFX like Jurassic Park or Avatar. "

 

So do you hate Tom Cruise movies for getting popular because Tom Cruise is in it? 

Oh my gawd... Just.. nevermind. Clearly you don't understand the point I'm trying to make. 

Or it's just not a very good point. Respond to my last reply (the one before this one) instead of taking the easy lazy route. 

I already said the analogy was rough, by the way. So I'm sorry I couldn't think of a good one. I'm not very good at analogies honestly, hopefully my last reply cleared things up  



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Insidb on 04 April 2018
SpokenTruth said:
Insidb said:

Yeah, it was very good, not sure I would call it "great." BP has some inherent oddities to it, but they executed the story very well. One of the best parts of the film is it's cultural uniqueness, as I can't think of another movie quite like it.

Also, I get the joke: I think T'Challa's little sister used it, in a derogatory manner. They can use it in the film, because those are the characters, but I'd just advise against using it in public.

I think you missed my usage of it then.  For T'Challa to be white, in a central African setting, he'd have to be a 'colonizer'.  Derogatory or not, you simply can't have a white civilization in central Africa unless it was a colonized.  He'd have to be the very 'derogatory' thing that partly pressured Wakanda into hiding itself in the first place.  I wasn't using it as a joke.

I see your point, but it would require excision of "colonizer" from the script. If they are the same as those outsiders (all white people, in the film), then it would be intrinsically contradictory. Like actual Africa, in you will find virtually no white people, aside from the extreme northern and southern regions. Ultimately, he couldn't be a colonizer, because the implication is what white people are colonizers: change the race, change the script.



thismeintiel on 08 April 2018

Weekend estimates are in. BP made another $8.43M at the DBO. It now sits at $665.36M, taking it to #3 on the all time Top 5 DBO, passing Titanic. And it has just $32.7M more to go to pass TLJ for #9 on the all time Top 10 WW.

So, where will it end up? Well, currently it is outpacing Avengers by 11.2%. If this continues it will end its DBO run at $693.17M. If the FBO percentage of 48.8% holds, it will end its WW run at $1.354B. This would place it at #8 in the all time Top 10 WW, above HP8 and TLJ.



 

Alara317 on 08 April 2018
Shadow1980 said:
*sigh* Of course some people would use any opportunity to downplay TLJ's box office gross. Black Panther exceeding all expectations isn't simply something to applaud Ryan Coogler & crew for. It needs to be used to lambast Rian Johnson's "failure" to produce the second-biggest movie of the past 20 years, because "LOL Star Wars got beat by a standalone superhero movie! $620M for TLJ = BOMB!!!" I've never seen such gross overreaction over a movie before. To me, BP's performance says a lot about its own status as a cultural phenomenon, and nothing about the state of Star Wars.

Moving along, Black Panther is, in inflation-adjusted domestic terms, on track to pass The Dark Knight to become the second-biggest superhero movie ever, and stands a good chance of getting within $10 million of The Avengers. It's already the 18th biggest movie of the "Blockbuster Era" of cinema. Quite a remarkable achievement. I don't think anyone ever expected it to do this well. And it was a damn good movie, too, so it's not like a Bayformers movie making far bigger bank than it has any reason doing.

Right? People are too fixated on agendas. Just be happy for what does well instead of focusing on what does poorly, and it's kind of gross to think people will go so far out of their way to disparage something or be negative. 



contestgamer on 08 April 2018
Alara317 said:
Shadow1980 said:
*sigh* Of course some people would use any opportunity to downplay TLJ's box office gross. Black Panther exceeding all expectations isn't simply something to applaud Ryan Coogler & crew for. It needs to be used to lambast Rian Johnson's "failure" to produce the second-biggest movie of the past 20 years, because "LOL Star Wars got beat by a standalone superhero movie! $620M for TLJ = BOMB!!!" I've never seen such gross overreaction over a movie before. To me, BP's performance says a lot about its own status as a cultural phenomenon, and nothing about the state of Star Wars.

Moving along, Black Panther is, in inflation-adjusted domestic terms, on track to pass The Dark Knight to become the second-biggest superhero movie ever, and stands a good chance of getting within $10 million of The Avengers. It's already the 18th biggest movie of the "Blockbuster Era" of cinema. Quite a remarkable achievement. I don't think anyone ever expected it to do this well. And it was a damn good movie, too, so it's not like a Bayformers movie making far bigger bank than it has any reason doing.

Right? People are too fixated on agendas. Just be happy for what does well instead of focusing on what does poorly, and it's kind of gross to think people will go so far out of their way to disparage something or be negative. 

You mean the people that made and promoted this movie are too fixated on agendas right? It's not about "disparaging", people are fighting for equal standards, against an oppressive society promoting some warped version of minority mob rule. Fighting against the oppression Olympics that is destroying the kind of equality that we have already achieved. I thought you're all about equality and promoting fairness, yet when people are fighting for fairness against an agenda that you hold dear (an ironically unfair one) then all of a sudden they're just disparaging racists. 



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Insidb on 08 April 2018
Shadow1980 said:
*sigh* Of course some people would use any opportunity to downplay TLJ's box office gross. Black Panther exceeding all expectations isn't simply something to applaud Ryan Coogler & crew for. It needs to be used to lambast Rian Johnson's "failure" to produce the second-biggest movie of the past 20 years, because "LOL Star Wars got beat by a standalone superhero movie! $620M for TLJ = BOMB!!!" I've never seen such gross overreaction over a movie before. To me, BP's performance says a lot about its own status as a cultural phenomenon, and nothing about the state of Star Wars.

Moving along, Black Panther is, in inflation-adjusted domestic terms, on track to pass The Dark Knight to become the second-biggest superhero movie ever, and stands a good chance of getting within $10 million of The Avengers. It's already the 18th biggest movie of the "Blockbuster Era" of cinema. Quite a remarkable achievement. I don't think anyone ever expected it to do this well. And it was a damn good movie, too, so it's not like a Bayformers movie making far bigger bank than it has any reason doing.

I swear to god, Shadow, if you cut Rian Johnson any slack for his shenanigans, I will force project my foot 20 parsecs up your ass lol!

Most SW fans are just using this an an opportunity to show how far TLJ fell from TFA, because it's right in BP's crosshairs.

TFA was the #3 WW and #1 US grossing movie of all-time, and TLJ dropped from TFA by a brutally inexcusable 33%.

So many fans immediately decried TLJ, to a roar of internet pushback, and BP created an opportunity for them.



Insidb on 10 April 2018
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This thread's "wait until your father comes home" moment has arrived.

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ArchangelMadzz on 10 April 2018

Seen it twice in Cinema and planning a third.

I've never seen a movie in the cinema more than once..



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Darashiva on 10 April 2018

Well, saw the film finally earlier today. Really enjoyed it. Definitely in the top half of Marvel films just based on one viewing, though I don't think it's quite among the very best of the MCU. Still, a highly enjoyable movie with a great cast, an excellent villain, a good score and a very well told story.



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thismeintiel on 10 April 2018
Darashiva said:
Well, saw the film finally earlier today. Really enjoyed it. Definitely in the top half of Marvel films just based on one viewing, though I don't think it's quite among the very best of the MCU. Still, a highly enjoyable movie with a great cast, an excellent villain, a good score and a very well told story.

Yep, my opinion exactly.