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PAOerfulone said:
Now, we've hit August, and week 31 numbers have been posted.
The Xbox One just passed 2.8 million for 2018 as it continues to slowly but surely build its lead.

The PS4's deficit now falls to over 1.4 million, while the Switch continues to build it's lead, now over 1.25 million.

At this rate the PS4's deficit will be about 2M when Spiderman launches. And I don't think it can stop the fall either, only slow it down.

Switch still winning against last year, but we're getting slowly into weeks with less and less stock issues and thus closer to the sales the Switch has right now. Might hit 1.5M in September, but not much more until Super Mario Party starts the sales Afterburner for the holiday season.

Looks like this will become the best year for XBO by a neat amount if it continues like that.



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August 11th numbers have been added



-1.5M for the PS4 next week compared to the year before, while the Switch will be 1.3M in front of last year by then



The way these two trends are progressing makes me very curious of how the holiday season.



PAOerfulone said:

The way these two trends are progressing makes me very curious of how the holiday season.

Same here

Nintendo did pretty good last year except October (because Odyssey came too late for pushing the whole month) and no Black Friday deal hurting November. This year Super Mario Party releases early October, Pokémon around BF and Smash early December, which should be vastly superior of what we got last year during that period. Add to this a potential BF deal or even a pricecut and Switch would sell bonkers.

PS4, on the other hand, will probably continue it's trend. Spiderman and RDR2 could slow it down a bit, but with both CoD and BF5 shaping up to be big disappointments, they won't do much for pushing sales. If Sony doesn't come with a permanent pricecut or extending it's BF deal until the end of the year I fear sales will just drop down further and further compared to last year.

Edit: As for Xbox One, there will soon be a jump in weekly sales to about what it's selling nowadays. This means it probably won't win much lead anymore until the One X launch, which boosted that week by a good 500k. In other words, which Xbox had been leading this whole year, it could end up flat overall

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 03 September 2018

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RDR2 is in late October, not late November. It's sales effect will be gone by the time Black Friday roles around. Unless Sony is planning a $149 PS4 Slim and $249 PS4 Pro Black Friday deals (or any deals that are equally as mind-blowing), there's absolutely no way 2 million for that week is going to happen. In fact, any system selling 2 million units in one week, at this point, can only happen either at launch, a damn, damn, DAMN good deal on Black Friday, or if it's at the right price, selling gangbusters (DS), and has a huge killer app coming out in December just before Christmas (New Super Mario Bros. Wii in 2009). The PS4 has been selling very well, but it's nowhere near '07-'08 DS levels. (In fact, I don't think we'll see any system selling at THOSE levels from a long, long time; If ever.) It doesn't have a game coming out in December that can sell and appeal to the mainstream, holiday shopping crowd on the level that a 2D Mario game could.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
PAOerfulone said:

The way these two trends are progressing makes me very curious of how the holiday season.

Same here

Nintendo did pretty good last year except October (because Odyssey came too late for pushing the whole month) and no Black Friday deal hurting November. This year Super Mario Party releases early October, Pokémon around BF and Smash early December, which should be vastly superior of what we got last year during that period. Add to this a potential BF deal or even a pricecut and Switch would sell bonkers.

PS4, on the other hand, will probably continue it's trend. Spiderman and RDR2 could slow it down a bit, but with both CoD and BF5 shaping up to be big disappointments, they won't do much for pushing sales. If Sony doesn't come with a permanent pricecut or extending it's BF deal until the end of the year I fear sales will just drop down further and further compared to last year.

Edit: As for Xbox One, there will soon be a jump in weekly sales to about what it's selling nowadays. This means it probably won't win much lead anymore until the One X launch, which boosted that week by a good 500k. In other words, which Xbox had been leading this whole year, it could end up flat overall

Oh, Nintendo's first party offering this holiday season completely stomps all over what they had last season. 2017 had one huge, system selling title, Super Mario Odyssey, and then 2 smaller, niche titles, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Fire Emblem Warriors. 2018 has two huge system sellers, Smash Ultimate and Pokemon, and then 1 potential system seller, Super Mario Party. I'm not counting on a Black Friday deal, because this is Nintendo we're talking about. But, a $199-249 Switch bundle with one of its evergreens (Odyssey, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, or Breath of the Wild) and that could send Nintendo cruising to their goal of 20 million for the fiscal year.

I was aware of BF5 showing signs of being a bust, but not CoD. Unless the lack of a single-player campaign is much more crucial than I think, I believe it will sell about what you'd expect from a Call of Duty game. Other than that, I agree with just about every other point you mentioned on the PS4.

Every time I post new numbers here for the Xbox One, my mind always drifts to the eventual X launch. One thing that I believe Microsoft can and should use to its advantage is a $349-399 Xbox One X Black Friday deal.  I think that could negate the ground it would lose to the launch and even lead to 2018 being up YoY.



Great to see the Xbox One doing quite a bit better. Also don't mind that it is close to the PS4 than last year :)



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

PAOerfulone said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Same here

Nintendo did pretty good last year except October (because Odyssey came too late for pushing the whole month) and no Black Friday deal hurting November. This year Super Mario Party releases early October, Pokémon around BF and Smash early December, which should be vastly superior of what we got last year during that period. Add to this a potential BF deal or even a pricecut and Switch would sell bonkers.

PS4, on the other hand, will probably continue it's trend. Spiderman and RDR2 could slow it down a bit, but with both CoD and BF5 shaping up to be big disappointments, they won't do much for pushing sales. If Sony doesn't come with a permanent pricecut or extending it's BF deal until the end of the year I fear sales will just drop down further and further compared to last year.

Edit: As for Xbox One, there will soon be a jump in weekly sales to about what it's selling nowadays. This means it probably won't win much lead anymore until the One X launch, which boosted that week by a good 500k. In other words, which Xbox had been leading this whole year, it could end up flat overall

Oh, Nintendo's first party offering this holiday season completely stomps all over what they had last season. 2017 had one huge, system selling title, Super Mario Odyssey, and then 2 smaller, niche titles, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Fire Emblem Warriors. 2018 has two huge system sellers, Smash Ultimate and Pokemon, and then 1 potential system seller, Super Mario Party. I'm not counting on a Black Friday deal, because this is Nintendo we're talking about. But, a $199-249 Switch bundle with one of its evergreens (Odyssey, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, or Breath of the Wild) and that could send Nintendo cruising to their goal of 20 million for the fiscal year.

I was aware of BF5 showing signs of being a bust, but not CoD. Unless the lack of a single-player campaign is much more crucial than I think, I believe it will sell about what you'd expect from a Call of Duty game. Other than that, I agree with just about every other point you mentioned on the PS4.

Every time I post new numbers here for the Xbox One, my mind always drifts to the eventual X launch. One thing that I believe Microsoft can and should use to its advantage is a $349-399 Xbox One X Black Friday deal.  I think that could negate the ground it would lose to the launch and even lead to 2018 being up YoY.

CoD beta was very poorly recieved, with dated visuals (even compared to MW3 apparently!), balancing issues, holding the map packs ransom behind an expensive season pass and the lack of single-player all together are making this game having a very poor reception. It's not or just barely for some days showing up in the Top 100 on either Gamestop or Amazon.

And considering the disappointment that was CoD IIII with all these things, BF5 only having about 15% of it's preorders was an absolute disaster. Those 15% would have been bad enough against a regular CoD, but against a disappointing CoD it could become a showstopper for Dice; really hope for them that the delay will help them otherwise I'll know which Studio EA sends next to the chopping block.

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Bofferbrauer2 said:

CoD beta was very poorly recieved, with dated visuals (even compared to MW3 apparently!), balancing issues, holding the map packs ransom behind an expensive season pass and the lack of single-player all together are making this game having a very poor reception. It's not or just barely for some days showing up in the Top 100 on either Gamestop or Amazon

And considering the disappointment that was CoD IIII with all these things, BF5 only having about 15% of it's preorders was an absolute disaster. Those 15% would have been bad enough against a regular CoD, but against a disappointing CoD it could become a showstopper for Dice; really hope for them that the delay will help them otherwise I'll know which Studio EA sends next to the chopping block.

Where are you getting all this info? Last year people were saying the same things about CODWWII and how its sales will be disappointing, and look how that turned out. Stop giving your own opinion as factual evidence.