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I don't see the logic in port begging for a game that's exclusive. Either buy the platform it's on or shut up about it.



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I'm sure this is just a troll post (i.e. from a non Sony owner) egging Kamiya. The system already has Nier and is getting a new DMC, the hack and slash genre is well represented on the system.



Chazore said:
JRPGfan said:

Does Nintendo own PlatinumGames?
Does Nintendo own the IP Bayonetta?

If no, serious question.... but why cant it come to the PS4?
If yes, then okay understandable.

Wasnt the first game on Xb360, PS3? as well.

You know what I find really random about this whole "they funded it" excuse?, the fact that we have gamers funding games over on PC, that sometimes make their way to more than just one platform. So why is it that a company can fund partly for game (I say partly, because they'd actually need a semi functional game to actually show that it's worth putting money into) is allowed to keep the game forever, while a crowd funded game is allowed to go wherever it wants to. You could sum up a crowd's worth of money to a company that managed to obtain a crowd's worth of money from past paying customers, I mean that's where the vast majority of money comes from in a business anyway (they can't all 100% rely on investors, let alone indefinitely), which is why I see both as being the same, only one is handled by a dev taking the money vs a company giving a dev money. 

I also find it rather backwards to release the first game across multiple platforms, and then seemingly cutting off all ties with everyone else. It's like selling a movie that's supported across all forms of DVD players, but then suddenly certain movies are only playable on only one type of DVD player, which limits how it can be played, let alone bought from.

Its a different kind of deal.When you try to fund your game through crowdfunding sites like Fig orKickstarter, you are asking for money to make the game, and in return the person who funded the game gets a copy or a toy or something of the sorts in return.Its not like one single person is funding the game entirely.

As for when a company funds a game thast couldnt be done otherwise, it is not doing it out of its kindness.It wants something back.A company wants to make money after all.We all forget every now and then that videogames are a business and in the end, the industry is more concerned with making money than having an artistic pride or keeping the gamer happy.

And Bayonetta 2 wouldnt happen without Nintendo help.At that point, Platinum needed more money than the 2 or 3 millions it could get through kickstarter.It needed the game to be fully funded.How can we complain about companies stepping in in cases like that?The perfect scenario would be for all games to be multiplats, but betwenn having no game and having it exclusive, I would choose the latter.

These types of situations are not black and white.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

I am pretty sure he said the exact same thing @ Bayonetta 2.



Peh said:
betacon said:

Yes and he asked if it would come to the ps4, Nintendo don't own the ip or any rights to the original game. No reason it couldn't, he's just being a prick again. No idea why people think it's acceptable behavior. 

Well, it's more like: if you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen. 

Imagine you being asked the same stupid question for years by thousand of different people because they don't did their research first. Nintendo funded it. End of story. 

They funded the first game did they? As an actually adult no it wouldn't bother me, he doesn't have to respond.



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betacon said:
Peh said:

Well, it's more like: if you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen. 

Imagine you being asked the same stupid question for years by thousand of different people because they don't did their research first. Nintendo funded it. End of story. 

They funded the first game did they? As an actually adult no it wouldn't bother me, he doesn't have to respond.

They funded the second and the third tho. The first one can go multiplatform, but the others can’t. It’s really that simple, doesn’t really make sense to keep asking.



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Aeolus451 said:
I don't see the logic in port begging for a game that's exclusive. Either buy the platform it's on or shut up about it.

 

LipeJJ said:

They funded the second and the third tho. The first one can go multiplatform, but the others can’t. It’s really that simple, doesn’t really make sense to keep asking.

The logic behind continuing to nag people is to annoy them to a point where they think twice about signing bullshit exclusive contracts. If people stay quiet these things will just continue to happen and it will get worse.



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Jranation said:
KrspaceT said:
People are still asking for it? Didn't they get the memo that Nintendo funds the games?

These are the same people that still thinks Switch won't sell more than the Wii U.

Well, tbh, it's 13m something sold-through. So 1,8 m units are sitting on shelves, forever unsold. And we all know it's going to stop selling this week, because of monster hunter. They totally blew their load in 2017. It's over dawg.



lol



LipeJJ said:
betacon said:

They funded the first game did they? As an actually adult no it wouldn't bother me, he doesn't have to respond.

They funded the second and the third tho. The first one can go multiplatform, but the others can’t. It’s really that simple, doesn’t really make sense to keep asking.

The person didnt ask directly about the second or third game though did he?

 

I can't believe people defend this nut job, he doesn't have to respond to anyone but instead decides to be a prick constantly. People are wanting to enjoy his game and express their interest and in return are attack , not everyone is caught update in gaming news. Lets not pretend he just attack people asking "dumb questions" just look at his past rants.



vivster said:
Aeolus451 said:
I don't see the logic in port begging for a game that's exclusive. Either buy the platform it's on or shut up about it.

 

LipeJJ said:

They funded the second and the third tho. The first one can go multiplatform, but the others can’t. It’s really that simple, doesn’t really make sense to keep asking.

The logic behind continuing to nag people is to annoy them to a point where they think twice about signing bullshit exclusive contracts. If people stay quiet these things will just continue to happen and it will get worse.

If it wasn't for that "bull$hit exclusive contract", Bayonetta would never had gotten a sequel much less a trilogy. Fact of the matter is the series still exists because Nintendo took a chance and got SEGA to "lease" or whatever the rights to continue the franchise and funded it themselves at that.