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NawaiNey on 12 January 2018
Vasto said:
NawaiNey said:

Sadly no. MS has confirmed that TC is exclusively focused of Gears of War and there will be no new IP.

 

I hope they are doing something. Its cool that they are focused on Gears IP but at least make something different like they do with Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon. 

They can keep doing the main Gears Of War then do a Gears Of War RPG or something.  

I feel the same way about 343 Studios. 

Yeah, would be pretty cool if they could reimagine the franchise like what Sony is doing with God of War.

Gears of 4 felt like a rehash of the first game.



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jason1637 on 12 January 2018
NawaiNey said:
DonFerrari said:
Good to see MS finally working on a new IP.

Sadly no. MS has confirmed that TC is exclusively focused of Gears of War and there will be no new IP.

I think they're lying. I remember when Halo 2 anniversary was leaked but MS said it wasn't happening. I think it's the same situation. And they officially helped on the PUBG port so that already wrong.



DirtyP2002 on 13 January 2018
NawaiNey said:
DonFerrari said:
Good to see MS finally working on a new IP.

Sadly no. MS has confirmed that TC is exclusively focused of Gears of War and there will be no new IP.

source please?



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NawaiNey on 13 January 2018
jason1637 said:
NawaiNey said:

Sadly no. MS has confirmed that TC is exclusively focused of Gears of War and there will be no new IP.

I think they're lying. I remember when Halo 2 anniversary was leaked but MS said it wasn't happening. I think it's the same situation. And they officially helped on the PUBG port so that already wrong.

I'd rather take their word for it now and be surprised later than be hopeful and disappointed later.

I've never heard of anyone lying about such an ambiguous leak though, if it was any substantial detail it'd be one thing, but just "new IP" is such a barebones leak that it doesn't even matter. This kind of thing always gets out but no one ever feels the need to deny it if it's true. To me this just sounds like MS trying to stay ahead of any false expectations that it might create among gamers and then cause disappointment when it's not true.



Mr Puggsly on 13 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
Good to see MS finally working on a new IP.

Well they funded numerous this gen and Sea of Thieves is a thing happening.



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Mr Puggsly on 13 January 2018
NawaiNey said:
Vasto said:

 

I hope they are doing something. Its cool that they are focused on Gears IP but at least make something different like they do with Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon. 

They can keep doing the main Gears Of War then do a Gears Of War RPG or something.  

I feel the same way about 343 Studios. 

Yeah, would be pretty cool if they could reimagine the franchise like what Sony is doing with God of War.

Gears of 4 felt like a rehash of the first game.

Well Gears 4 is a Gears game. Not only does the gameplay feel the same, but that's kinda crucial to the MP experience in my opinion.

Meanwhile the new God of War could have been a new IP, I don't think it has a multiplayer content so the only focus was a narrative driven campaign.

So I'm fine with Gears being Gears. But if MS wants to do something unique, either reboot an old IP or make something new. But not every IP needs the God of War treatment, especially when you consider its just a narrative driven experience.



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NawaiNey on 13 January 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:
Good to see MS finally working on a new IP.

Well they funded numerous this gen and Sea of Thieves is a thing happening.

True. MS unfairly gets criticized for not making new IPs. They've been the second best when it comes to adding new IPs to their catalogue this gen. It's the 3rd parties that are really lagging.

 

Nintendo: (I’ll count both WiiU and Switch games cause Nintendo can use the help…)

Splatoon

The Wonderful 101

Arms

1-2 Switch 

 

EA: 

Titanfall

Unravel

Anthem

 

Activision: 

Destiny

?


Ubisoft:

The Crew

Watch Dogs

For Honor

Steep

Child of Light


MS Studios:

Quantum Break

Recore 

Sea of Thieves

Crimson Dragon

Ori and the Blind Forest

Screamride 

KALIMBA

***They also funded a couple new IPs that they don’t own like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive.

 

Sony:

Bloodborne

Horizon Zero Dawn

The Last Guardian

Detroit: Become Human

Dreams

Until Dawn

Driveclub

The Order 1886

Knack

Death Stranding

Days Gone

Ghost of Tsushima

Concrete Genie

The Tomorrow Children 

What Remains of Edith Finch

Everybody's gone to the Rapture

Drawn to Death

Kill strain

Alienation

Matterfall

Bound

Helldivers

Resogun

Hohokum

Guns Up

Entwined

CounterSpy

Here They Lie

The one thing I can say though is that the new IPs MS created were early on, the latest entry on that list is Sea of Thieves which was announced at E3 2015 over 2 and half year ago, since then nothing. One can assume that these new IPs were in production before Phil took over, and since he's become the head of xbox new IPs have ceased to exist. I really don't understand why this guy has fanboys when he's clearly putting his efforts into the wrong places and ignoring the thing us core gamers really want which is games and new IPs. Instead he's more interested in backwards compatibility and has cancelled more games than he's green lit.


Mr Puggsly on 13 January 2018
NawaiNey said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well they funded numerous this gen and Sea of Thieves is a thing happening.

True. MS unfairly gets criticized for not making new IPs. They've been the second best when it comes to adding new IPs to their catalogue this gen. It's the 3rd parties that are really lagging.

MS Studios:

Quantum Break

Recore 

Sea of Thieves

Crimson Dragon

Ori and the Blind Forest

Screamride 

KALIMBA

***They also funded a couple new IPs that they don’t own like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive.

 

Sony:

Bloodborne

Horizon Zero Dawn

The Last Guardian

Detroit: Become Human

Dreams

Until Dawn

Driveclub

The Order 1886

Knack

Death Stranding

Days Gone

Ghost of Tsushima

Concrete Genie

The Tomorrow Children 

What Remains of Edith Finch

Everybody's gone to the Rapture

Drawn to Death

Kill strain

Alienation

Matterfall

Bound

Helldivers

Resogun

Hohokum

Guns Up

Entwined

CounterSpy

Here They Lie

 

The one thing I can say though is that the new IPs MS created were early on, the latest entry on that list is Sea of Thieves which was announced at E3 2015 over 2 and half year ago, since then nothing. One can assume that these new IPs were in production before Phil took over, and since he's become the head of xbox new IPs have ceased to exist. I really don't understand why this guy has fanboys when he's clearly putting his efforts into the wrong places and ignoring the thing us core gamers really want which is games and new IPs. Instead he's more interested in backwards compatibility and has cancelled more games than he's green lit.

That's the thing, I said FUNDED because some of those games may not exist, at least not as they do, without MS funding them.

That includes Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, and Cuphead. There are projects that were funded by MS but didn't stay exclusive like Super Time Force comes to mind.

Then there are games like Lococycle, Max: Curse of the Brotherhood, D4, Project Spark, and Powerstar Golf.

So MS's situation is a little different considering they're more open to funding games they don't own.

People talk about wanting new IPs but old IPs can come back as unique products as well. Either way, MS is funding games, new and old IPs.



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DonFerrari on 13 January 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:
Good to see MS finally working on a new IP.

Well they funded numerous this gen and Sea of Thieves is a thing happening.

Well you are right... perhaps the "finally" was pushing it. I wasn't trying to be mean, I was just happy that the studio was free to work on a new IP, but seems like it was fake (at least seeing the reply I received)



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Mr Puggsly on 13 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well they funded numerous this gen and Sea of Thieves is a thing happening.

Well you are right... perhaps the "finally" was pushing it. I wasn't trying to be mean, I was just happy that the studio was free to work on a new IP, but seems like it was fake (at least seeing the reply I received)

I get the impression The Coalition is a studio that also exist to help development of projects more technically than creatively.

MS uses UE for a lot of projects and I'm sure that will continue. Gears 4 happens to be a technical achievement for X1 and UE4.



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