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COKTOE on 08 January 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
Its all about power. Thats why xbox one x will be the most successful system this gen

Oh my absolutely yes. From it's release up until the launch of the PS5 and the next Nintendo system.



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Pinkie_pie on 08 January 2018
COKTOE said:
Pinkie_pie said:
Its all about power. Thats why xbox one x will be the most successful system this gen

Oh my absolutely yes. From it's release up until the launch of the PS5 and the next Nintendo system.

Finally someone agreed with me. Im glad we think the same



Alkibiádēs on 08 January 2018

Those PS exclusives didn't sell a lot compared to the big multiplat games however...



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

COKTOE on 08 January 2018
Pinkie_pie said:
COKTOE said:

Oh my absolutely yes. From it's release up until the launch of the PS5 and the next Nintendo system.

Finally someone agreed with me. Im glad we think the same

Yep. You and me.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Alkibiádēs on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
Alkibiádēs said:
Those PS exclusives didn't sell a lot compared to the big multiplat games however...

Which is irrelevant, as big multiplats (FIFA/COD/GTA) always sell better than exclusives. Does not change the importance of in-house titles.

Which is not irrelevant... For the record: I mean multiplat sales on a single console (in this case the PS4), not the total amount of sales across all platforms. 

Nintendo has exclusives that sell as good as those titles you mentioned (on a single platform of course)... Pokémon, 3D Mario, 2D Mario, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros., Animal Crossing, etc. 

Only on Nintendo platforms are exclusives the major driving force behind sales. 



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HoloDust on 08 January 2018
Alkibiádēs said:
Those PS exclusives didn't sell a lot compared to the big multiplat games however...

They don't really have to - they are just there to give an extra oomph to the system that is built with full 3rd party support in mind - most gamers seem to prefer 3rd party games, so good exclusives are there just to tip the scale a bit.



Alkibiádēs on 08 January 2018
HoloDust said:
Alkibiádēs said:
Those PS exclusives didn't sell a lot compared to the big multiplat games however...

They don't really have to - they are just there to give an extra oomph to the system that is built with full 3rd party support in mind - most gamers seem to prefer 3rd party games, so good exclusives are there just to tip the scale a bit.

How many exclusives would PS have if we take away major third party support? A lot of console exclusives on PS are made by third parties after all, and not Sony themselves (Persona 5, Nier: Automata, Nioh, Until Dawn, etc.)

Would those games still be made if PS4 didn't sell a lot?



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Which is not irrelevant... For the record: I mean multiplat sales on a single console (in this case the PS4), not the total amount of sales across all platforms. 

Nintendo has exclusives that sell as good as those titles you mentioned (on a single platform of course)... Pokémon, 3D Mario, 2D Mario, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros., Animal Crossing, etc. 

Only on Nintendo platforms are exclusives the major driving force behind sales. 

Nintendo's properties drive more sales, yes, but that was never presented as an argument. A consoles's exclsuives will always matter, regardless if they sell like Nintendo's properties or not.

So stop trying to turn things into an us vs them discussion.

No one said it didn't matter, it's just not as important as most of you here seem to think it is... Otherwise sales of these exclusives (Persona 5, Nioh, Nier, etc.) would be A LOT higher. Persona 5 barely scraped past a million. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Farsala on 08 January 2018

Yep I buy every console based on exclusives, and I really can't see why it wouldn't be a factor to most other people.

Sure a casual gamer will see CoD and Madden on both PS4 and XB1, but a lot of them will be affected by what exclusive is on it whether it be Halo, Nioh, Forza, or TLOU.



HoloDust on 08 January 2018
Alkibiádēs said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nintendo's properties drive more sales, yes, but that was never presented as an argument. A consoles's exclsuives will always matter, regardless if they sell like Nintendo's properties or not.

So stop trying to turn things into an us vs them discussion.

No one said it didn't matter, it's just not as important as most of you here seem to think it is... Otherwise sales of these exclusives (Persona 5, Nioh, Nier, etc.) would be A LOT higher. Persona 5 barely scraped past a million. 

Actually, I think it's very important - Sony always tries to have very diverse portfolio of exclusive IPs of various...let's say...sizes - i.e. for some Uncharted 2 was all they needed to buy PS3 - for me it was Journey and Demon's Souls - I don't really like most of Sony's 1st party AAA games, but their exclusive 3rd party games quite often hit the spot for me.

They seem to be going with the same strategy this gen, just with better hardware this time (compared to PS3 vs X360)...and that's working quite well for them.