numberwang said:
Aeolus451 said:
Are they barring anyone from signing up based on their gender? No? Then the situation that you brought up doesn't serve as an accurate example of what they're talking about.
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Yes they are barring men (having a barrier) with higher prices based on their sex alone - I still argue for the freedom to do so.
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Yea. Personally, I think business should institute any policy they want, but they must be transparent about that policy so consumers can decide if they wish to do business with them or not. The only problem I see today is that not only is there is not enough transparency for consumers to do so, but it also seems so lopsided. Recently, there was a cafe owner who found out that a couple were handing out Pro-Life fliers. They weren't doing it in the cafe, or even just outside it, but another customer pointed out who they were and he screamed at them to leave. Nothing happened to him. It wasn't a big story for days. However, if it was the other way around, the owner was Pro-Life and the customer Pro-Abortion, it would have gotten much more attention and I can bet local officials would have made sure to press some kind of charges on the grounds of discrimination.
It also works in your favor if you are a protected class. We have heard plenty about the white Christian bakers who have lost their business and/or had to pay large fines because they refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. Not refused them business, period, just that one item, on the grounds of religious beliefs. However, some people have actually done the same to bakeries owned by Muslims, who also turn them down, yet we hear nothing about it. No charges/fines are pressed.
SpokenTruth said:
pokoko said:
It's been in the news in one shape or form for years. From the Boy Scouts being sued to let in girls to country clubs, social clubs, Rotary clubs, Elks clubs, and college clubs, among others, being sued or protested against to let in women.
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The Boy Scouts changed policy to allow girls. They were not forced to do so because someone sued.
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Sure, it wasn't a specific lawsuit that caused them to change. But, to say that they weren't forced is a little disingenuous. In this PC climate, and the threat of looming lawsuits as the PC culture turned their full guns at them, there was really no other option.
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