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Nintendo Switch has become the fastest selling video game system of all time in the US

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DonFerrari said:
John19 said:

Doesn't change the fact that it was heavily supply constrained for the entire month, and it most likely could have done more if more had been shipped

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that



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zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes sure, the old let's consider HH consoles when it is of convenience

This my friend is called cherry picking

And claiming only Nintendo could make a hybrid by ignoring what came earlier is what?



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John19 said:
DonFerrari said:

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

Almost all consoles are supply constrained on launch, so that is hard to see why it's relevant.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

SpokenTruth said:
Dead on arrival.
Dead after launch window.
Dead after game X.
Dead after 2017.

The goalposts have legs almost as good as Nintendo games themselves do.

Yes, move the goals so we can never be wrong (all haters on the thread) LOL



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DonFerrari said:
John19 said:

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

Almost all consoles are supply constrained on launch, so that is hard to see why it's relevant.

I'm not claiming the Switch was the only supply constrained console. I was simply saying that it had a supply constrained month, not a well stocked one, and that it could have sold more if more had been shipped



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John19 said:
DonFerrari said:

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

ps4 was supply limited because of it's launch, but it's launch month was the holidays get the point? being supply supply limited at launch is the norm for a highly demanded console, but when it's a holiday launch it hurts sales a lot more, basically missing out on the holiday period.  



DonFerrari said:

Sure thing... and sure MS or Sony if launching a hybrid wouldn't have 3rd party support right? PS1 and X360 could become runaway success even with little first party content and still managed to get third parties onboard.

What you are saying is basically that Nintendo is the only one who could make Switch successful despite not having good relationship with 3rd parties, while the initial point was that Nintendo is the only company that could have made a hybrid console which then changed to be the only one that could make it sucessful and now the first one to make it or the only one that could do it only with 1st party... you are changing the goalpost as much as SpokenTruth is accusting quickrick of.

RolStoppable said:

You aren't proposing a comparable scenario. The question is really simple: Do you believe that a company other than Nintendo could have created a console like Switch that diverts from the established norm and make it a resounding success?

If yes, you must name the companies you believe could have pulled it off. If no, you should concede the point.

Yes I do. You know Sony or Apple could have done it if that was their idea or objective. Wouldn't be exactly like Nintendo made it, but they could make a sucessful hybrid console.

In response to what you said to Supernova:

There's no reason to believe that Sony or Microsoft would have third party support for a hybrid when Sony couldn't get third parties on board for the Vita which was a known entity as a handheld. If you can't get third parties for a known entity, you'll have no luck getting them for an unknown entity.

The goalposts haven't moved since cycycychris's original post. From the beginning he said that only Nintendo could turn such a product into a such a big success story.

In response to what you answered to my post:

I am not convinced in the least that Sony or Apple could do it. Sony at least has some success stories in the video game market, but Apple has only failure to show. Apple's entire corporate philosophy makes it so unlikely that they could succeed in the video game market. Sony's problem is that they need to put out hardware that AAA third parties approve of; additionally, all of Sony's first party IPs that qualify as system sellers also rely on processing power. So whether it's first or third party for Sony, what they need to succeed is at odds with the limitations that come with a hybrid design. Consider that Sony's Vita had to rely first and foremost on first party support in the USA and Europe - and in the USA which is the topic here - Vita fizzled out at ~2.4m units lifetime. You can rightly argue that Vita was far from ideal execution, but there's only so much tweaking Sony would be capable of. Ultimately, their first party wouldn't be able to carry the system and convince third parties.



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quickrick said:
John19 said:

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

ps4 was supply limited because of it's launch, but it's launch month was the holidays get the point? being supply supply limited at launch is the norm for a highly demanded console, but when it's a holiday launch it hurts sales a lot more, basically missing out on the holiday period.  

I've literally never denied that. You said the Switch had a well stocked launch, it didn't, that's what I'm arguing



joora said:
nemo37 said:
Do we know how much Switch sold in the US by the beginning of December? We can use that information to calculate the December sales in the US. The charts unfortunately only show regional data in the US up to November 18.

If we conclude from the NPD data for November, it would put switch sales in December at around 1.4 million.

 

Edit: we didn't get NPD for switch, but could conclude from reports on PS4 numbers and switch selling half.

we have john harker telling us 2.5x over october, so switch shoudl have did 750k-780k for November, switch did around 1.45 in December.