Wanna try and be any more anti semitic? You're a disgusting human. How is that crap even allowed??

You're disgusting for defending people who have targeted: hospitals, ambulances, first-responders. That's not even mentioning their soldiers going out of their way to kill civilians -women and children included. But yeah, somehow in your head these "people" are the good guys. 

Oh cool so not only do you not understand the situation fully you also question if Jews are human.

 I called out Starocean, so I'm not sure what you even gain by mentioning 'others' calling Israelis neo-nazis. They aren't, and it's a fucking ridiculous statement.

But both sides aren't perfect, and I've learned that by living in the place. However, it's unfair to paint one side as innocent. Palestinians aren't some innocent bystanders being persecuted - neither are the Israelis

People can debate to what extent each side is responsible, but at the end of the day it's clear. Illegal settlements are a driving cause, but the lack of proper education for many Palestinians hurts them as well.

At the same time, in a region so poor, should one be surprised to see some rotten apples in a barrel? People forget how awful it is to live in some parts of Gaza. If I lived there, I probably would hate Jews and Israelis as well.

Getting rid of Palestine's current government with a liberal/progressive leader and pushing back illegal settlements would be in both sides' interests. I want to see Palestine be a bit more progressive (not sjw progressive) before I die. Won't happen with Abbas though

They might not be if they treat people that way. But hey, to you it's okay for the Palestinians to be put in concentration camps and have their kids killed. Right? That's all cool. Genocide is ok to you when it isn't Jews. Right? Cause they're the good guys always? 

Is that what I said? Youre the one which seems to think it's only the nasty sub humans fault. I guess these sub human should just lay down and hamas just wipe them off the map for good.. you know the real terrorist group. Lets ignore it was Palestine that refused the treaty, lets ignore the constant attack on Israeli civilians, they don't matter cause theyre sub humans by you.

I'm amazed how easily you try to get away from the issue by excuses that don't really make much sense: Examples taken before WW2, As if an imaginary line makes stuff before WW2 ok and magically not ok right after WW2, very convenient to justify your anti-Jewish argument.

Indians eliminated by smallpox. Wow you must feel so good about America having invaded Indian territory cause smallpox is the bad guy, not the good white settlers who took a land unoccupied by Indians...

And finally Israel and their ancient kingdoms did not exist, they were just made up? How convenient... Except there are documents attesting to their existence, history, monuments too. I can't believe you are trying to undo history just to accommodate your pro-palestiniant views. That's what they call revisionism, when people deny history to justify something. Kind of like those who say that Hitler never killed the Jews in the concentration camps.

If you need to undo history to justify your side of the argument then as far as I am concerned you have no argument.

At least that last part of your comment can be discussed (cause up to now, it's just a cop-out and revisionism) so about Israel occupying palestinian land, well it's FAIR. 1 Because it is historically their land... Oh right, you changed history to avoid this, ok fine let's move on to the next argument: it's STILL fair, cause after the UN allocated land to the Jews in 1947 (or will you say that did not happen too?) after that, the Arabs ATTACKED Israel with the intent of DESTROYING Israel for the ONLY reason that a NON muslim nation was born in the MIDDLE of what is purely a muslim area (how nice and tolerant of them, right?) and while NEVER at peace with the Jews, the Arabs attacked AGAIN in 1967, this time all together, palestinians, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria etc... to murder all Jews to the last man, woman and child...

But they failed cause Israel was (and as I argued before can ONLY be militarily powerful or they would have ceased to exist back in those days) victorious, in 6 days they crippled the enemy armies and as a totally JUSTIFIED punishment, took some land as buffer zones. Let me repeat this very important part: Arabs attacked to destroy every last Jew in Israel. Israel attacked to defend and took SOME land as a very justified punishment. Do you see the difference? Taking some land and trying to commit genocide as the muslims tried is quite different in my book.

After that, the palestinians had their excuse to commit more violence and whine to the world oooooh the mean Israelis took our land from us good palestinians for no reason, boooh... After that it was a permanent guerilla warfare and terrorism, rocket launches to try to randomly murder Jews, shot from Gaza and the West bank, terrorists blowing themselves up in buses and public places in Israel. And you seriously suggest that land should be returned to those barbarians? Israel in my opinion is weak and does not go far enough. The only true solution is to kick all palestinians out of at least the West Bank and take that territory who was ANYWAY Jewish land to begin with. If there are no palestinians there, there won't be any attacks coming from there, simple logic. As for palestinians, when you see the HUGE lands around Israel, it's all muslim land and they could settle in so many places out there and live peacefully (if peace was what those people really wanted). Unfortunately Israel is weak on this issue cause creating buffer zones in the West Bank and only pushing palestinians farther in does not change the malevolent nature of palestinians. You don't defeat a cancerous tumor by reducing it or by putting anti cancer stuff AROUND the tumor, you need to completely eliminate the cancerous tumor in its heart. In other words buffer zones and settlements are not enough. Palestinians need to go to new land of which there is so much choice outside and around Israel.

I know its drastic, I'm not saying it would be easy and would give among guys like you an excuse to hate even more on Israel, but the truth is it is either that or permanent war with palestinians who will NEVER accept Israel. Not when Israel was created and did NOT take any land from Palestinians and NOT now that they have justifiably taken some land.

Sorry but you will not so easily deconstruct my psychology 

The majority of your stances on political issues/policies are left leaning. It has nothing to do with trump. Anyway, I rather support a people who I share values with over pandering to a violent group of people who are just looking for any excuse to annihilate another people. Israel is here to stay because that path was decided years ago and we invested too much into it already. The Palestinians are gonna have to suck it up and learn to live with it. *shrugs    

I thought the UN was established after WWII for a reason ? 

American settlers can't really be "invading" if all their taking is vacant land ... 

If you mean by documents such as their Hebrew "Bible" then sure but I doubt many are willing to accept it as an accurate recollection of previous events. Ancient Israel is just a part of their "religion" like it or not so the jewish aren't reclaiming anything, they've just artificially enshrined their legend on a land in a state that is no more than 70 years old. I'm very far away from being pro-palestinian if that's what you think since I don't have a very high opinion with associated Sunni Islam culture and I very much realize that they are the first hand aggressors ...

You may think it's fair but the UN on the other hand does not and sees it as Israel unlawfully occupying what is supposed to be Palestine administered territory but that doesn't mean it's just to take land from another nation. The colony of Canada never saw it to be acceptable to take US territory even though americans were the aggressors and subsequently americans never felt like they needed to take japanese territory when WWII came to a conclusion and in fact have returned the administration of Senkaku Islands back to Japan after some time past WWII so why does Israel feel the need to take so much of the Palestinian land when their military is that much stronger ? 

Yes, Israel should return the land that they have taken if they still want to appeal to the international community. West bank is jewish land to begin with ? Now THAT is revisionist since there's no thorough account of the jewish holding Israel in the past to any significant degree and Israel was once a colony of ancient Egypt before any mention of Israel. At most the before the creation of the state, the jewish has only held the region for 5 centuries in the distant past. If anyone's going to claim Israel the right should go to the arabs since they've held that territory far more longer such as the Babylonian/Persian rule, Caliphates, Mamluk rule and it especially helps that the Ottoman Empire are the recent administration and for 400 years at that too ... 

You're right that Israel is weak, in fact they should probably invade more Palestinian territories and become a proud successor to the Third Reich ... /s

What you suggested is just stupid since palestinians could decide to migrate to Europe where that region is far more charitable than the rest of the middle east which would ACTUALLY give the neo-nazi's some real ammo to use against the jewish community ... 

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. If you are going to rewrite history, ignore it or anything like that I'm not sure how we can even argue the issue. Believe whatever you want, that the Jews were invented this morning that they are plotting to destroy the world and so on...

You have your opinion and I have mine and I'm really glad that Israel defends themselves against those terrorists whose ultimate goal is to destroy the country like they tried in 1967 but of course that does not bother your anti-semitic mind. Or perhaps you are going to say that the Arabs never attacked in 1967 to destroy the Jews or maybe since the UN is your reference maybe you will say that the UN was ok with the Arabs attacking Israel and Israel illegally defended themselves, they should have let the Arabs slaughter them to please those who (yeah I'm gonna say it) wish Hitler had done the job and since he did not, they wish the Arabs did it.

In the end all that matters is the facts and the most recent fact is that the US acknowledged Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and I'm very happy about that because I would hate for a foreign country especially an ally country like the US to tell me that the capital of my country is not the capital.

Until 1947 that land that is today Israel and Palestine was nothing but a barren desert where there was nothing and the Jews changed that into a productive land, a prosperous economy and a democracy whereas the palestinians did nothing of that land, so the place is better off in the hands of Israel.

When I see all the anti-semitic comments I'm twice happier to see Israel succeed, at least there is some kind of justice there. I admire their tenacity, resisting the very hostile Arabs that completely surround them. They could EASILY get rid of all palestinians and end the problem once and for all but unlike mulsim countries, democracy means something in Israel, so much so that, believe it or not, some Arabs are in the Israeli government, a big mistake in my opinion but nonetheless a fact which I'm sure you are going to deny so yeah, whatever. Let me know when Jews are allowed in the Iranian or Saudi governments...