Israel-Palestine: Which "solution" do you prefer?

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NightDragon83 said:

monocle_layton said:

A final solution joke and a terrible nazi pun? For fuck's sake, how do you think anyone will take you seriously?

So Israel isn't harming innocent civilians as well?

 

Taking over land isn't the only practical solution. It honestly isn't. Palestine has a high amount of reported civilian casualties as well.

You've got people in this thread literally comparing modern day Jews / Israelis to neo-Nazis... I think a couple lame holocaust jokes are the least of the issues here.  I wonder if the people who take the Palestinians' side of the conflict would still support them if they were all blonde haired, blue-eyed, lily white Europeans.  Mein Kampf is a regular best seller in the Arab world for a reason, you know.  And if today's Jews = neo-Nazis, does that mean it's now OK to punch Jews?  Since today's social justice crowd has no self awareness or sense of irony, there's honestly no way to tell.

As for the poor Palestinians and their "plight" against the big meanie Israelis, I can tell you that while the Palestinians may have garnered sympathy during the 90s and leading up to the failed peace talks in 2000, the vast majority of people here in the US stopped giving any f*cks about the Palestinians after seeing them celebrating in the streets on 9/11 and continuing to support terrorism and "intifadas" against Israel and the West.

 I called out Starocean, so I'm not sure what you even gain by mentioning 'others' calling Israelis neo-nazis. They aren't, and it's a fucking ridiculous statement.

 

But both sides aren't perfect, and I've learned that by living in the place. However, it's unfair to paint one side as innocent. Palestinians aren't some innocent bystanders being persecuted - neither are the Israelis

 

People can debate to what extent each side is responsible, but at the end of the day it's clear. Illegal settlements are a driving cause, but the lack of proper education for many Palestinians hurts them as well.

 

At the same time, in a region so poor, should one be surprised to see some rotten apples in a barrel? People forget how awful it is to live in some parts of Gaza. If I lived there, I probably would hate Jews and Israelis as well.

 

Getting rid of Palestine's current government with a liberal/progressive leader and pushing back illegal settlements would be in both sides' interests. I want to see Palestine be a bit more progressive (not sjw progressive) before I die. Won't happen with Abbas though