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Forums - Politics Discussion - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
sethnintendo said:
Superman4 said:

And how much did the employees pay in union dues that year?

No clue but I know their making way more money per hour than my nonunion manufacturing job.

My point is that Union employees pay thousands into dues every year. Getting some of it back because the union stands to make more money  isn't exactly being generous, its giving back money they already took.



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Voted for President Trump, and have been mostly pleased with his efforts so far. Only thing I would change is the way he has handled gender and human rights issues. That said, you are never going to agree 100% with any president. I was very pleased with the way President Obama handled human rights issues, but not so impressed with the direction he took our Military, Job Market, and Boarder control. Now it has flipped, Trump is hitting all the right notes with Military, Boarder control, and Jobs, but lacking in human rights.

Obviously it would be ideal if we had a president that was perfect in all catagories, for all people, but that is just not realistic. With so many diferent views and issues, there will always be places where people don't see eye to eye. I think Trump is what the US needs right now, to restrengthen the country, and remotivate the American people. Make America a country we can be proud of again from a stance of power, innovation, and jobs. Then in 7 years we can hand the reigns back to someone that can help continue to push for more human rights.

There has to be balance. We have to have people that make sure the country stays healthy, and people that make sure we are growing as human beings. If we only worry about growing as human beings, and forget to protect that growth, then we open up the oppertunity for others to take that growth away. If we only worry about making the country healthy, then and forget about human growth, then we end up in things like we saw in WWII Germany.

I believe President Trump has had a decent 1st year in office, and is re-building America. By the time the next election arrives, we will be in a much better place with taxes, infrastructure, health care, social security, boarder control, and military to name a few. I hope he can win again in 2020, and solidfy the the rebuilding of the American dream. Then someone else can take over in 2024 that can start to address human rights, and help give a more equal oppertunity for all Americans to get the most out of a stronger United States.



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irstupid said:
AsGryffynn said:

One reason: INSTABILITY. Trump knows the situation is delicate and he's dealing with it within a very unstable bubble. The decision is only going to throw the place into even more disarray or, if Trump is actually Batman, sideline the whole world on this issue, shut the US out of the UN and then have Russia use the UN as a potential beatstick to force Israel to comply by virtue of it being the US vs the rest... 

Because even at maximum capacity, the outcome of the latter would be peace for Palestine at Sarmat-Long March-Exocet-Trident point. At this point, the rest of the world is just too strong... 

    

The area has been in instability since World War 2, and the two has been arguing over the land for over a thousand years.

What has been the worlds solution? Watch and see or try to split it up between the two. Option one is just keepi the status quo, where they will continue to fight for another 1000 years or one side wipes out the other. The two hate each other and they won't share. Any idiot can see that as all you have to do is look back at the last 70 years.

Trump took at side. What he did might cost a few more lives immediately, but in the long run will hopefully finally resolve this damn issue.

And heck, shouldn't most people support this side? I mean we have been Native American guilted for how long now? Constantly we are told how horrible we are for taking their lands and so on. That area was originally the Jews, so is Trump not doing the honorable thing? Giving it back to its natives?

Just because there's a fire doesn't mean you take it out by making it bigger... 

At this point, the only solution is to treat the heavyweight of the two, Israel, the way we do North Korea and give them a bloody ultimatum... Withdraw to YOUR borders or regime change. If the US was happy to do so with Saddam, I find it frustrating Netanyahu isn't an acceptable target. The US seems to be thinking doing anything painful to Israel will make them fascists. 

They also ignored the Rohingya massacre for some reason, yet were willing to invade Syria... 

Now, if the Native Americans suddenly obtained independence, this would make sense, but they haven't. It is the role of the strong to side with the weak, not the strong. If one state has clearly occupied land that doesn't belong to them and has no popular support to do so, the state should get the boot. Israel isn't Russia and Palestine isn't Crimea... If the people say "get out" you do unless they are doing something abominably horrific. Unless you argue we should let Italy conquer Greece... 



_Dog_ said:
I say it's best that he be removed from office ASAP. And this is coming from someone who dislikes the Democratic Party.

I say he stay. The world needs to realize giving someone too much power is a bad idea and only Trump will show everyone what happens when the de facto policeman of the world goes rogue state... and hopefully work to ensure this situation ends... 



AsGryffynn said:
_Dog_ said:
I say it's best that he be removed from office ASAP. And this is coming from someone who dislikes the Democratic Party.

I say he stay. The world needs to realize giving someone too much power is a bad idea and only Trump will show everyone what happens when the de facto policeman of the world goes rogue state... and hopefully work to ensure this situation ends... 

The issue with humans are. They forget really fast about the shit they've done. Pretending it never happened just to do it again.



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I took it back a few months ago, but anyone who still supports him is literal cultist. That or rich. But unless you’re rich you’re just a Trump cultist. I have doubts he’ll win 2020. He burns too many bridges and is certifiably mentally challenged. Any decent person can beat him easily. However if God is real he’ll ensure he dies of a heart attack or stroke before 2020 is even a thing



Peh said:
AsGryffynn said:

I say he stay. The world needs to realize giving someone too much power is a bad idea and only Trump will show everyone what happens when the de facto policeman of the world goes rogue state... and hopefully work to ensure this situation ends... 

The issue with humans are. They forget really fast about the shit they've done. Pretending it never happened just to do it again.

TBH we only need a year so Russia and China can get their shit together. China is... Russia just started. Then there will simply not be someone to turn to because they will have taken too much power away for the States to be able to regain it's original strength. 

That's the policy of Gospodin President and Uncle Xi. They don't want to conquer the world or destroy America. They want to strip it off its status as a superpower by rendering their foreign policy ineffective. You only need to do so once and nimble enough to take jabs at a colossus. Eventually, it will hemorrhage most of it's power. 

StarOcean said:
I took it back a few months ago, but anyone who still supports him is literal cultist. That or rich. But unless you’re rich you’re just a Trump cultist. I have doubts he’ll win 2020. He burns too many bridges and is certifiably mentally challenged. Any decent person can beat him easily. However if God is real he’ll ensure he dies of a heart attack or stroke before 2020 is even a thing

Should see my Twitter. They have started to look borderline religious right now, and their racism is now becoming apparent rather than thinly veiled. It seems he will do no wrong in their eyes. I wasn't in the Never Trump train and gave him the same shot I'd give any President, but boy in all my life I have never seen political followers so frantic and loyal to a man... 



AsGryffynn said: 

Should see my Twitter. They have started to look borderline religious right now, and their racism is now becoming apparent rather than thinly veiled. It seems he will do no wrong in their eyes. I wasn't in the Never Trump train and gave him the same shot I'd give any President, but boy in all my life I have never seen political followers so frantic and loyal to a man... 

I gave him a shot for the first month or so. Because his inaguration speech is actually pretty good and arguably the only presidential thing he’s done. Talking about bridging the divide and having everyone come together. But in the back of my mind I also knew he is old and set in his ways, childish, and a narcissist -selling out to whoever showers him with praise most.

Then he continued to attack any who question him, divide the Democrats and Republicans as much as he can, and hire people completely unqualfied for the jobs they posses; see Betsy DeVos and Scott Pruitt. Side note: Scott Pruitt’s handling of OK before becoming head of the EPA led to children there having worse drinking water than that of Flint Michigan https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/06/scott-pruitt-tar-creek-oklahoma-investigation-215854

At that point any sane person would start to question the leadership. But no, his supporters are still full steam ahead. Sure, you get defectors here and there, but not enough. The fact he endorsed a pedophile should be enough to have a Christian base angry at him, but that’s still not the case. Because to them, an unqualified mentally handicap man who is literally letting our country fall behind while the rest run circles around us -is STILL better than a Democrat. Then you got the shit like “he was chosen by God” and I think to myself: What the literal fuck XD 

Now, Trump isn’t the problem though. Swap Trump out with anyone with the same actions and the reaction would remain. He’s part of a larger issue. The issues being that

1. a 2 party system doesn’t fucking work, either a. allow for more parties to get better platforms (Dems and Reps wont allow it), or b. (preferrably) abolish parties entirely and have the people in politics be judged by character and performance rather than what color their party wears.

2. The media sucks. I despise the word “fake news” because news cant be fake and because it’s a word that partisan people use to avoid criticism. Plus the media reports on all the wrong issues. I don’t give a fuck that Trump made fun of CNN, I’d rather focus on why the congress ordered sanctions against Russia have yet to be implemented. They were deadlined for October 1st. Nothing of note has come of implementing them. No one in congress brings it up either. The supposed “heroes” to save the people, the Democrats, are so focused on his easy to see flaws that the ACTUAL FUCKING PROBLEMS aren’t being addressed. 

3. The people helping, aren’t. Democrats have no message other than “we’re not Trump” -which will work for people already voting Democrat, but not Independents and especially not Republicans. These people need to SHOW that they’re better than Trump. And Jesus Christ, I hope those incompetent morons learn quicker or else this could be 8yrs of shitshow instead of just 4



Puppyroach said:
The thing I find most hilarious is how people actually can believe that lowering taxes for the wealth would spur growth in the economy. If you really would like to see the economy skyrocket, cut the taxes for low income individuals by half. It´s not strange that the richest people in the country want their taxes to be lower, the weird thing is how average voters can fall for it every time.

It actually make a lot of sense. As capital is cosmopolitan by nature, the rich will move where they pay less taxes. One big reason for the success of USA is their low tax rate for the rich (compared to western Europe), but today the competition isn't coming from Europe, but China, and I'm sure USA want's to get their hands on the money of the Chinese superrich.



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KManX89 said:
Superman4 said:

He isn't trying to take my health care away, I don't get healthcare through the ACA exchange. He also isn't just cutting taxes for the wealthy, he is cutting taxes for everyone.

Everyone under 165k per year will receive a 3% tax deduction except the first tax bracket of 0-$9500 for singles. They will stay at 10% Standard deduction doubles for singles and couples, 12K for singles and 24K for couples. Child credit also doubles from 1K to 2K per child. Unless you make over $165K per year and have writeoffs over 24K as a couple you will save money. 

Yes he is (or should I say, was), and no he isn't

By 2027, every income group making below 75k a year would see a tax increase, on average under this new "tax reform" bill. 

It also guts Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security all so people making millions/billions of dollars can keep more piles of cash, so no, it does NOT "benefit everyone", it benefits the wealthy at the middle and poor classes' expense (because it worked so well for us under the Bush administration).

As for people "voluntarily" going off insurance without the mandate, that lie has also been beaten to death. Most of the 22 million losing health insurance wouldn't "choose" to go off their coverage at all, 15 million of those expected to lose coverage would be literally kicked off their insurance due to lack of Medicaid per the CBO. Now that we're on the subject of the insurance mandate, premiums were actually going up at a much higher rate before the ACA.

You can moan all you want about the government "forcing" you to buy insurance, without the mandate, you'd be paying a lot MORE for health coverage, as much as 10% more.

You Trump supporters really are allergic to facts. 

You cut the taxes to spur the economy and once you have the economy growing, you start raising the taxes, pretty much typical keynesian example.



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