Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:
Depends how you look at it but I can't deny he did technically fail to make a deal. That doesn't mean his choice to walk away was the wrong decision though, assuming the other option would have been to force a poor deal. Overall, both sides tried to make a deal and came away empty handed, so nobody won or lost really, as long as the relationship remains friendly and open to further negotiations, which it looks to be.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
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SuaveSocialist answered this one already. As mentioned many times before, Trump continues to lie and you and superman seem to just dismiss those lies or just choose to forget them. So while he is telling the American public that he has completed something in reality he hasn't done squat. Its the same dumb crap with the Wall, he continue to state the wall is being built but anyone who has an ounce of intelligence knows its a total lie. This conman will continue to ride his base and you all the way to the bank, thinking to himself how stupid these people must be as I continue to play them like fools.
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Already? You mean after my post? Ok?
I don't see anything that says he completed anything. Looks like he may have said it's in progress, and considering his history in construction, the process doesn't start with immediately physically building anything, it starts with planning and negotiations.
Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:
Blame everyone else in my initial post? Where I said he could have offered billions to sweeten the deal but the left would have scolded him for that? How is that blaming the left for his failure to strike a deal? Him being scolded wouldn't prevent a worthy deal from happening if it could have. Trump doesn't care about the left so I'm told.
So if the people, not part of Gov, and not that well versed in politics, are acting like children due to poor MSM parenting, why when 'dad', the Prez, tries to teach them a something and straighten them out, he gets bashed and ridiculed for his parenting? Half or more of the kids are listening and behaving just fine. Shifting blame to the child? Why don't we let them vote? If the child constantly lies, odds are good it's not mostly the kids fault, since they don't know any better and won't unless proper teachings or consequences are put before them. Many kids will throw a tantrum when this happens but backing down and being 'mr nice guy' will only get you lied to more and walked all over. I wonder why Trump doesn't back down?
I just simply said I didn't use a phrase like deplorables, to back up my point about not blaming 'everyone' so you seemed to somehow think. You then took that an turned it into me painting the entire left with that. Didn't I recently mention something about the left and spin?
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You continue to speak on parenting as if you know what you are talking about. There is no shifting blame to a child because a child's actions is their own. A child chooses to follow advice and teachings or not follow. You are under a very foolish impression that a child does not understand their choices or their actions. The fact a child lies is definitely evidence the child understands because there would not be any reason to lie if you are not afraid of the consequences.
As to why Trump never back down from his lies, why would he. He has you to defend them which is every conman prize. Why would he ever admit he has lied, embellish the truth or deceived anyone. A conman would never admit those things and since people like you seem to be more than happy to defend him he doesn't need to. Hell the bolded part should be something you ask yourself because no one else isn't being "Mr Nice Guy" to Trump.
Who cares what phrase you use or not use. At the end of the day, you have built a box and looking to drop anyone in there that meets your opinion. This is why everything is left and right to you. As long as you can put people into your box you feel comfortable instead of looking at each individual as their own person.
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Well we can look at this a couple ways. You simply disagree with my points regardless of my knowledge and experience when it comes to parenting. Either that or not having kids, which means I wouldn't have direct experience of the subject, apparently makes my points less worthy if not worthless. If that's true, then anyone who isn't a politician, can say whatever they want but it must be mostly worthless due to their lack of direct experience, and only those that have been Presidents should be highly regarded when speaking about Presidential issues. Children, even teens in general, don't understand the long term repercussions of lying. They will learn and understand it helps them get out of trouble now, but they don't understand the much larger problem it will be for them in the future. This is a big reason why children aren't aloud to vote. This is why it's up to the parent to teach them this, as young as possible, because there is a reason why the, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" saying exists. It's not completely accurate but in general is well understood.
Like I said before, if you back down you will get walked all over, especially by the whiny ones. Backing off here and there, even if you think they're wrong, is sometimes a good idea for scoring points with them on minor issues, since it makes them think/feel your on their side and more fair, even if your not, like playing good cop back cop with a kid. Trumps opposition constantly whines, no matter how insignificant the topic, and Trump puts his foot down most of the time. How often has America as a whole been negatively impacted by this? From Trump and many conservatives point of view, while they may say the opposition are being jerks, they're only saying that because they are annoyed and want the useless portion of the whining to stop. What they really think, is the opposition is weak, like a whiny child, and are being a bunch of 'mr nice guys'. Political correctness is a lefty thing, and is still clearly abided by for the most part, yet they don't realize it. I guess that's why the MSM never admits to their 'mistakes' either. Maybe Trump and the MSM are meant for each other?
You pointed out it was used by that "one person", HC I would assume, and that's why you replied like you did, so obviously you cared. I still can't see how it has to do with me hating the entire left, and I'm going to have a hard time figuring that out unless you go beyond simply stating that's what I'm doing. I think you mean I built a box that's been invaded and I'd like them to get out because that's not what it's meant for, but they say borders and walls are immoral so I guess I can't do anything about it. Maybe I should spend more time at work and split my earnings with them?