130 ps4 and 110 switches sounds about right unless the Inevitable lower price point of the switch pushes it to heights I can’t foresee

PS4: 123M
Switch: 132M

It's actually like a good wine: It gets better with every passing year

I think you might have been talking too early here...

Oh, the cliff! It's coming! For 2 years now the end is nigh! Any second now...

Ryng_Tolu said: bump again after one year. This comparation is getting more interesting as time goes on.

Definitely!

Also, pages upon pages arguing about the fact that a launch in March is not the same as a launch during the holiday season and thus launch-aligned sales are being heavily skewed in favor of the PS4, but Nintendoomers didn't want to have any of it.

PS4 ... I mean PS4 is in its 6th going into 7th year and it's still getting new IP like Cyberpunk and next year they'll get Final Fantasy VII Remake, which is a huge title ... Nintendo just can't have that level of software support for 6-7 years with the same 7 or 8 Nintendo IP over and over again it hits saturation point and 3rd parties don't really help out after that.

Both have room for price cuts as Sony hasn't brought the PS4 down to $199.99 (full time) yet even.

GB and 3DS says otherwise, the former went on for over 10 years while the latter is finishing up with 8 years, like the GB NS has a monopoly on one side of the market unlike it and the 3DS the is only one platform for Nintendo to focus on. PS4 also gets replaced next year NS doesn't PS1 got FFIX in its final year which was a huge game it didn't stop PS2 replacing it fully.

Adding to this, if Nintendo wouldn't have been scared by the Vita and brought the 3DS to set against it so early, I'm sure they could have been running that system for another 2-3 years instead of pulling the plug at a time it was still selling 20M a year in it's 7th year on the market.

Heck, I do believe that the original idea of Nintendo was to run both the DS and the Wii a couple years longer and then switch directly to NX without a Wii U and 3DS in between. But the technology wasn't ready yet, so they had to make a half-step in between, and that one failed horribly.

3DS sold poorly for several years in its down cycle, Nintendo won't allow that again now that they're only a one platform (primarily) company. They had no choice but to ride the 3DS a bit even at decreased yearly shipments because the Wii U was selling even worse. That wasn't a situation they would want to be in. 

Game Boy was all but dead by 1995, that's the only reason an idea as crazy as the Virtual Boy was allowed to come to market. 

Pokemon came out of nowhere as a miracle game in Japan in 1996 and gave the Game Boy brand a second lease on life, otherwise they were working on a GB successor (Project: Atlantis) at that time. But you can't rely on pulling a new Pokemon out of your ass, that happens once every 20, maybe 30-40 years. 

PS4 will sell at least 120 million. Switch will sell at least 75 million, but more likely get closer to 100 million. I have to give it to the PS4. I really don't see any scenario where the Switch sells more.

disagree. Wii Sports in 2006, ten years.

Aways Nintendo's success is a fluke than Sony's success is not? 

Gameboy is not dead, it's the leader of the portable market. Nintendo NEVER LOSES IN Portable market, this is not a fluke. 

The idea of a hybrid system supports the system in the long run. Nintendo only has the Switch Successor in the long term. No more two consoles at the same time.

Portable Nintendo have a long lifespan. GB, DS, and 3DS. The switch will follow that rule. 

When you're relying on pulling a miracle out of your ass to sustain your hardware sales, yes that doesn't work on command. You can't just snap a finger and make one definitive system selling piece of software.

Sony's setup is basic, but it works, they get a constant stream of IP and lots of new IP as well all the time because hundreds of developers make their system their primary platform. 

Nintendo has never actually more than 4 1/2 years really without a new hardware platform ... the reason GB/DS/3DS could have extended product cycles is because Nintendo was ok with declining sales for those platforms in the later years because they had a secondary console platform that would boost hardware sales, and then a new handheld would do that and vice versa and vice versa. 

1996 - N64 

1998 - Game Boy Color

2001 - GameCube & GBA

2004 - DS

Nov. 2006 - Wii

Feb. 2011 - 3DS

Nov. 2012 - Wii U

Mar. 2017 - Switch

The longest time between a hardware platform for Nintendo has been 4 1/2 years in their modern history, so that offsets the effect of either the handheld or console platform declining, because they always had a new console or HH coming to provide a new "fresh boost" as it were fairly regularly. 

If Switch sales decline like 3DS did in the later half of its product cycle that's not going to be good for Nintendo as Switch is their only hardware line. Investors only care about the fiscal year in question they don't care that much about culminate hardware sales/online pissing matches, there's no magic cookie they get if Switch hits 90 mill versus 100 mill. So it will be interesting how Nintendo handles that because it's kind of unprecedented territory for them.