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PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

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What do you expect?

NSW will win by a huge margin 18 6.69%
 
NSW will win by a small margin 59 21.93%
 
PS4 will win by a small margin 70 26.02%
 
PS4 will win by a huge margin 115 42.75%
 
Sorry, no troll XB1 option. :P Oh wait... 7 2.60%
 
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zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Which is our point to deny that launching in the holiday would have changed much the situation of Switch sales.

Yes it would because they would have planned things differently since Dec is such a busy time for sales.

For example, they wouldnt have planned to ship 2 million  globally in Nov followed by 500k in Dec. No console manufacturer has ever done anything like that.

Like the data shows, Dec sales are usually around Nov sales. Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft know this hence why they make plans to ship a similar number in each of those months when they have a Nov launch.

ok, whatever, we won't ever make you agree on it, so have your way. Switch would sell 10M if launched on Holiday and PS4 just 500k if launched in March.



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Nymeria said:
My guess right now?

Sony PlayStation 4: 110 million
Nintendo Switch: 90 million

This is expecting PS5 in 2020 and Switch successor in 2023.

I agree about the new Nintendo console in 2023. But i think this will be enough time for surpass the famous 100 million mark. Right now i think both PS4 and NSW will sell over 120 million.



2020 predictions: NSW 21m, PS5 6m, XSX 4.5m, PS4 9m, XB1 3m
(PS5 and XSX predictions will most likely change after we know enough about them)

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes it would because they would have planned things differently since Dec is such a busy time for sales.

For example, they wouldnt have planned to ship 2 million  globally in Nov followed by 500k in Dec. No console manufacturer has ever done anything like that.

Like the data shows, Dec sales are usually around Nov sales. Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft know this hence why they make plans to ship a similar number in each of those months when they have a Nov launch.

ok, whatever, we won't ever make you agree on it, so have your way. Switch would sell 10M if launched on Holiday and PS4 just 500k if launched in March.

Way to take things ouy of context.

I can say the same thing about you, no matter what i say you wont accept that console manufacturers expect sales to remain stable in Dec when launched in Nov and expect them to drop in April when launched in March.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

It's funny that everytime I see this thread I see tons of new messages and we won't know how this will end for at least a few years lol



zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

ok, whatever, we won't ever make you agree on it, so have your way. Switch would sell 10M if launched on Holiday and PS4 just 500k if launched in March.

Way to take things ouy of context.

I can say the same thing about you, no matter what i say you wont accept that console manufacturers expect sales to remain stable in Dec when launched in Nov and expect them to drop in April when launched in March.

The big difference here is that we, the people who are arguing that a holiday launch isn't an advantage, have provided sales data which shows that the Switch had a way bigger launch in march than every other console that had a holiday launch excluding the PS4. We've also stated that despite launching in March, Nintendo continues to have stock issues to this day, and the PS4 had stock issues for at least a few months. Which means that there was zero advantage, and if there was an advantage, you'd pretty much be implying if the Switch had a holiday launch it would be crushing the PS4 or at the very least be significantly outselling it launch aligned, which is what DonFerrari was getting at.

Meanwhile, the only counter argument you have provided is your own baseless assumption that "console manufacturers will plan differently." That really isn't convincing at all.



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bluedawgs said:
zorg1000 said:

Way to take things ouy of context.

I can say the same thing about you, no matter what i say you wont accept that console manufacturers expect sales to remain stable in Dec when launched in Nov and expect them to drop in April when launched in March.

The big difference here is that we, the people who are arguing that a holiday launch isn't an advantage, have provided sales data which shows that the Switch had a way bigger launch in march than every other console that had a holiday launch excluding the PS4. We've also stated that despite launching in March, Nintendo continues to have stock issues to this day, and the PS4 had stock issues for at least a few months. Which means that there was zero advantage, and if there was an advantage, you'd pretty much be implying if the Switch had a holiday launch it would be crushing the PS4 or at the very least be significantly outselling it launch aligned, which is what DonFerrari was getting at.

Meanwhile, the only counter argument you have provided is your own baseless assumption that "console manufacturers will plan differently." That really isn't convincing at all.

Are you fucking kidding? I have provided 1000% more sales data than you or any of the people on your side have.

I have literally shown data from like 12 consoles that shows sales always remain somewhat stable in Dec compared to Nov and always fall off a cliff in April compared to March.

I know Switch had a huge March, i never said otherwise, read the last 15 posts i wrote. MY ENTIRE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN THAT 2ND MONTH SALES ALWAYS REMAIN STABLE WHEN A CONSOLE LAUNCHES IN NOVEMBER, 2ND MONTH SALES ALWAYS DROP SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN A CONSOLE LAUNCHES IN SPRING.

Again, Shadow1980 and I have provided data that shows this always happens regardless of stock issues.

Its just common sense that a console manufacturer will plan to have significantly higher shipments in Dec compared to April.



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bluedawgs said:
zorg1000 said:

Way to take things ouy of context.

I can say the same thing about you, no matter what i say you wont accept that console manufacturers expect sales to remain stable in Dec when launched in Nov and expect them to drop in April when launched in March.

The big difference here is that we, the people who are arguing that a holiday launch isn't an advantage, have provided sales data which shows that the Switch had a way bigger launch in march than every other console that had a holiday launch excluding the PS4. We've also stated that despite launching in March, Nintendo continues to have stock issues to this day, and the PS4 had stock issues for at least a few months. Which means that there was zero advantage, and if there was an advantage, you'd pretty much be implying if the Switch had a holiday launch it would be crushing the PS4 or at the very least be significantly outselling it launch aligned, which is what DonFerrari was getting at.

Meanwhile, the only counter argument you have provided is your own baseless assumption that "console manufacturers will plan differently." That really isn't convincing at all.

I swear it's like  talking to a wall, he keeps saying the same thing no matter what. all these consoles launch during the holidays and  had supply issues.

* he ignores ps4 was sold out within 24 hours and couldn't launch in japan cause of stock issues

*he ignore ps3 couldn't launch in europe because  of  supply

* he ignores switch had more supply then wii, 360, ps2, the first 2 months despite them launching during the holidays.

I mean seriously he must have a real bad comprehension problem. all these points and he brings up stupid data showing sales didn't decline the second month that much, lol.  



quickrick said:
bluedawgs said:

The big difference here is that we, the people who are arguing that a holiday launch isn't an advantage, have provided sales data which shows that the Switch had a way bigger launch in march than every other console that had a holiday launch excluding the PS4. We've also stated that despite launching in March, Nintendo continues to have stock issues to this day, and the PS4 had stock issues for at least a few months. Which means that there was zero advantage, and if there was an advantage, you'd pretty much be implying if the Switch had a holiday launch it would be crushing the PS4 or at the very least be significantly outselling it launch aligned, which is what DonFerrari was getting at.

Meanwhile, the only counter argument you have provided is your own baseless assumption that "console manufacturers will plan differently." That really isn't convincing at all.

I swear it's like  talking to a wall, he keeps saying the same thing no matter what. all these consoles launch during the holidays and  had supply issues.

* he ignores ps4 was sold out within 24 hours and couldn't launch in japan cause of stock issues

*he ignore ps3 couldn't launch in europe because  of  supply

* he ignores switch had more supply then wii, 360, ps2, the first 2 months despite them launching during the holidays.

I mean seriously he must have a real bad comprehension problem. all these points and he brings up stupid data showing sales didn't decline the second month that much, lol.  

Lol yep stupid data that shows a 20 year old trend while you provide no data whatsoever other than piggybacking off what others say, good for you pal.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

I swear it's like  talking to a wall, he keeps saying the same thing no matter what. all these consoles launch during the holidays and  had supply issues.

* he ignores ps4 was sold out within 24 hours and couldn't launch in japan cause of stock issues

*he ignore ps3 couldn't launch in europe because  of  supply

* he ignores switch had more supply then wii, 360, ps2, the first 2 months despite them launching during the holidays.

I mean seriously he must have a real bad comprehension problem. all these points and he brinup stupid data showing sales didn't decline the second month that much, lol.  

Lol yep stupid data that shows a 20 year old trend while you provide no data whatsoever other than piggybacking off what others say, good for you pal.

Your data hasn't proven jack shit, the data everyone else has provided has shown that there is without a doubt ZERO advantage to launching during the holidays because:

1: Switch is doing better than everything besides PS4, and pretty much every console besides the fucking 3DS has launched in November. And the Switch is crushing that while having a higher price regardless

2: Almost every console has had heavy supply issues at launch anyway

What these two points above mean, is that every console has AT LEAST enough interest in them to be able to sell out at launch REGARDLESS of what month it is and no matter how much stock there is. And obviously, unless you're suggesting Nintendo planned on having supply issues and Sony planned on having supply issues, there isn't much that "planning" can do to avoid not being able to satisfy demand.

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zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

I swear it's like  talking to a wall, he keeps saying the same thing no matter what. all these consoles launch during the holidays and  had supply issues.

* he ignores ps4 was sold out within 24 hours and couldn't launch in japan cause of stock issues

*he ignore ps3 couldn't launch in europe because  of  supply

* he ignores switch had more supply then wii, 360, ps2, the first 2 months despite them launching during the holidays.

I mean seriously he must have a real bad comprehension problem. all these points and he brings up stupid data showing sales didn't decline the second month that much, lol.  

Lol yep stupid data that shows a 20 year old trend while you provide no data whatsoever other than piggybacking off what others say, good for you pal.

try to use your brain for a minute. we are talking about the holidays being a advantage, compared to launching in march, not second month being a decline, if switch shipped 600k, for november, and 600k for december, how is that a advantage compared to march? in the end they both sold the same for in 2 months.