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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

 

What do you expect?

NSW will win by a huge margin 53 16.06%
 
NSW will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a huge margin 117 35.45%
 
Sorry, no troll XB1 option. :P Oh wait... 10 3.03%
 
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Ryng_Tolu said:
Azuren said:
Even if Switch outsold PS4 by 10% every week for the next 3 years

The point is, for the next 3 years Switch is not gonna sell 10% more than PS4. More like 100% to 300% more lol

Broooo..... what?

PS4 selling 200k a week. So you're saying switch is gonna sell 400k-800k a week?.....

Bro...



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If,for whatever reason,the switch is successful in china,and if they can keep the flow of games,then i can see a really close competition.But the switch is gonna sell at least 50 M lifetime imo.



ryuzaki57 said:
Look at the facts : PS4 has a considerably larger and more varied library than Switch, with most 3rd parties considering PS4 audience as their priority target. How can Switch get even close to PS4 userbase in that situation? At best, Switch will attract most Nintendo fans, part of casual gamers who aren't playing mobile and part of the Vita crowd. Without major 3rd party exclusives, Switch sales may even slow down in 2018.

Yeah, I completely agree.

Remember when Game Boy had better third party support than PS1? And remember when DS had better third party support than PSP? And remember when Wii had better third party support than PS3? And remember when 3DS had better third party support than Vita?

Good times.



ryuzaki57 said:
Look at the facts : PS4 has a considerably larger and more varied library than Switch, with most 3rd parties considering PS4 audience as their priority target. How can Switch get even close to PS4 userbase in that situation? At best, Switch will attract most Nintendo fans, part of casual gamers who aren't playing mobile and part of the Vita crowd. Without major 3rd party exclusives, Switch sales may even slow down in 2018.

I'm just going to say this. I read a lot of your comment and I think you get a bit too much shit from Nintendo fans. A lot of what i've read is logical or at least understandable. But man ... the way you write all your comments regarding Nintendo sounds like bait. The way you wrote this, it honestly sounds more like overly pessimistic wishful thinking than honest discussion. 

That's just my piece on it, though. 



Slarvax said: 
Lol is that a system tier list?

It's cool, isn't it?

ryuzaki57 said:

Without major 3rd party exclusives, Switch sales may even slow down in 2018.

ArchangelMadzz said:

Broooo..... what?

PS4 selling 200k a week. So you're saying switch is gonna sell 400k-800k a week?.....

Bro...

1) I personally don't like that metric of "weekly sales" because this is VGC metric. I'm more like comparation between NPD, Media Create, Quarters reports, and when some times we have numbers from EU countries like France / Germany / Spain ecc

2) 800k? Nope. 400k? Absolutely yes, not every weeks of course, but that's probabily gonna happen many times. 3DS was selling 70-120k as weekly basic in Japan in 2012 for many weeks, and Switch should surpass this. ALSO, Switch in USA is selling more than in Japan, something which was not the case for 3DS, which mean Switch in USA will most likely sell even more than that. Like, we should see some NPD months like 400-600k in 2018, kinda like we saw with DS and WII, or even GBA at one point. Including rest of the world, here we go. Switch baseline in 2018 has a good chance to be 400-500k in good weeks worldwide, or 300k in slow weeks. Do you think that's incredible? Well, that's how you ship 25-30 million in a Fiscal Year.

3) And of course, PS4 in the next 3 years are not gonna be the same lol, do you think that PS4 in 2020 will still sell as much as is selling right now?



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ArchangelMadzz said:

Broooo..... what?

PS4 selling 200k a week. So you're saying switch is gonna sell 400k-800k a week?.....

Bro...

1) I personally don't like that metric of "weekly sales" because this is VGC metric. I'm more like comparation between NPD, Media Create, Quarters reports, and when some times we have numbers from EU countries like France / Germany / Spain ecc

2) 800k? Nope. 400k? Absolutely yes, not every weeks of course, but that's probabily gonna happen many times. 3DS was selling 70-120k as weekly basic in Japan in 2012 for many weeks, and Switch should surpass this. ALSO, Switch in USA is selling more than in Japan, something which was not the case for 3DS, which mean Switch in USA will most likely sell even more than that. Like, we should see some NPD months like 400-600k in 2018, kinda like we saw with DS and WII, or even GBA at one point. Including rest of the world, here we go. Switch baseline in 2018 has a good chance to be 400-500k in good weeks worldwide, or 300k in slow weeks. Do you think that's incredible? Well, that's how you ship 25-30 million in a Fiscal Year.

3) And of course, PS4 in the next 3 years are not gonna be the same lol, do you think that PS4 in 2020 will still sell as much as is selling right now?

Okay so we wont use weekly.

You said PS4 will be outsold 100% to 300%.

PS4 selling 20 million in a year as the base. You're saying switch will sell 40 to 80 million a year. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:

Okay so we wont use weekly.

You said PS4 will be outsold 100% to 300%.

PS4 selling 20 million in a year as the base. You're saying switch will sell 40 to 80 million a year. 

1) He was talking about weekly. Not yearly sales, indeed he said "even if Switch outsell PS4 by 10% every weeks"

2) So you think that for the next 3 years PS4 will sell 20 million and will not slow down even with PS5 release? Seem legit.



Ryng_Tolu said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Okay so we wont use weekly.

You said PS4 will be outsold 100% to 300%.

PS4 selling 20 million in a year as the base. You're saying switch will sell 40 to 80 million a year. 

1) He was talking about weekly. Not yearly sales, indeed he said "even if Switch outsell PS4 by 10% every weeks"

2) So you think that for the next 3 years PS4 will sell 20 million and will not slow down even with PS5 release? Seem legit.

Yeah.. and selling 10% more every week is selling 10% more every year, that's how math works. Sos elling 100% - 300% more weekly is selling 100% - 300% more yearly.

 

By the time the PS5 comes out Switch wont be in reach. Switch has to first overcome a 60 million deficit, and by the time it does that PS4 will have already sold 10s of millions of more units. 

Edit: Screw it I'm bookmarking this.



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I need to see the Switch on the market for a year before I decide. My money is on neither atm



ArchangelMadzz said:

Yeah.. and selling 10% more every week is selling 10% more every year, that's how math works. Sos elling 100% - 300% more weekly is selling 100% - 300% more yearly.

 

By the time the PS5 comes out Switch wont be in reach. Switch has to first overcome a 60 million deficit, and by the time it does that PS4 will have already sold 10s of millions of more units. 

Edit: Screw it I'm bookmarking this.

You seriusly don't get the point, so i'll make it clear, here what he said:

"Even if Switch outsold PS4 by 10% every week for the next 3 years"

This dude is saying this as, in the best scenario, Switch is going to sell at best only 10% more than PS4 for the next THREE YEARS.

Which is a super low number. My point is not that Switch will ALWAYS outsell PS4 for at least 100% every week, but that there are going to be weeks where Swicth outsell by a HUGE margin, that's the point. yes, some times x4 or x5, expecially if we talk about 2020 which is alsmot for sure the PS5 year, if not 2019.

Was that hard to understand?

 

Also, what's the second part about?

"By the time the PS5 comes out Switch wont be in reach. Switch has to first overcome a 60 million deficit, and by the time it does that PS4 will have already sold 10s of millions of more units. "

.

LOL i don't even said i expect Switch to outsell PS4 (well, i'll clearly say this, yes, i actually think so even if i think will be super close), but my argument righ there is not that Switch will outsell PS4 yearly sales by triple or quadruple, is only that is CLEAR that for the next years, Switch will outsell PS4 by a good margin, and in some weeks we'll see Switch outselling PS4 by a lot, like, x4 or more. That's it.

 

Oh, and for the last part "i'm bookmarking this", what do you want to bookmark? Bookmark this comment if you want lol, i don't see why, but if you really want to play this game, didn't you said that Switch wasn't gonna surpass 40 million units just a few months ago?

Do you still think that's gonna be the case there?