Just like how everything Trump does is blocked by Democrats right?

No. His failure is inexcusable. Same with the rest that went before him. This wasn't some overnight problem. This accumulated through time. Everyone just let them be as if they're given full consent. As I said before in some threads, small problems are always ignored, up until it blows in everyone's faces. We never learn.

Also that study is nice and all but that doesn't represent the problems we have with enforcing immigration policies. I say America needs to be less socialistic and reassess the middle grounds to find a much fair stand point in this matter. If done legally that these kids are given opportunities to be legal citizens, then by all means do it but don't leave them in status quo because they're "special". However I do not agree if such laws or acts will be abused by future illegal immigrants. Putting a catch basin on a broken pipe is not a permanent fix. And this is what Obama did with his DACA. Left it as such. He had so much time to push his agendas and step on people's foot but he never addressed the problem with enforcing immigration on the problematic states.

What does it mean to be American? Remember that the US was founded by rich, white male slaveowners.

So it hasn't changed all that much. 

Then why didn't Obama push harder for their naturalization and go the extra mile for enforcing immigration policies? He shouldn't be talking shit at Trump because he has a hand in this fucking mess. He did a half-assed job by leaving a temporary stop gap such as this that is so fucking exploitablr. Are you seriously buying into this crap?

Take California for example. They're enabling illegal immigrants by giving them all the bullshit welfare crap yet those who contributed are given a smaller and sometimes a hard time.

A catch basin is at least something, no one else did anything. These kids will be legalized as Republicans likely do not want to be destroyed in the next 4-5 elections (why hello there Florida) and even a majority of Trump supporters want to see DACA kids stay. 

The problem with this post, aside from blaming Obama senselessly, is that it does not directly address my point. My point is probably avoided because it is difficult to address directly. However, no greater solution will come by talking about the previous president and laws that not only are not relevant today, but really did not help or hinder immigration when they were applied.

Since I am from California, I know first hand that a lot of what you just claimed is a lie. However, there is no point in going back and forth because people that want to push the buck and blame unto others recklessly are very difficult to communicate with since they tend to have a lack of focus for the topic at hand.

You do not do a half assed measure and say hey I did something. He had two terms to push and address such issues and yet he didn't go all out.

But then again I understand the hindrances from other sides but still doesn't make it inexcusable that he is talking trash about the administration's approach regarding this matter.

Jesus Christ. I am lying?

Guess my personal contacts on hospitals and schools were lying about how taken for granted these welfares given. Not to mention acting all damn entitled when some of them are probably paying close to nill.

Also I am not just blaming Obama. Have you read my statement? Or are you too blind to see? What I am saying here is that he has no fucking right to completely point fingers at people.

Anyway this thread like most political threads has devolved into fanaticism again. Obama is a sacred cow and Trump is a complete demonic icon. I would disagree that both aren't simply black and white and both have their ups and downs.

Back to the topic though, nobody here has told me with a straight damn face that there is no problem with the immigration enforcement. Nobody here has told me with a fucking straight face that the pampered treatment some illegal immigrants are getting here are just. Instead we'd just like to keep it at that because they're good for business and not approaching the things through legalities.

If you think that tipping the law for a specific set of people is just then I feel like everything is lost here. I don't even know why I should trust the system nor pay my due taxes. And the replies over here about how they're willing to welcome such injustice makes me say that the 10 years I've spent are complete fucking waste. Thanks for making me regret that we didn't leave with my mother when she left in 2006 and just entered US illegally. Since apparently, nobody gives a fuck if I'm an illegal immigrant and will embrace me with open arms and fight for my rights!

The whole thing about "these illegals are living like kings!" is also a load of bullshit. The overwhelming majority of them work their ass off, many toiling in jobs that most regular Americans wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. 

You do not do a half assed measure and say hey I did something. He had two terms to push and address such issues and yet he didn't go all out.

But then again I understand the hindrances from other sides but still doesn't make it inexcusable that he is talking trash about the administration's approach regarding this matter.

Jesus Christ. I am lying?

Guess my personal contacts on hospitals and schools were lying about how taken for granted these welfares given. Not to mention acting all damn entitled when some of them are probably paying close to nill.

Also I am not just blaming Obama. Have you read my statement? Or are you too blind to see? What I am saying here is that he has no fucking right to completely point fingers at people.

Anyway this thread like most political threads has devolved into fanaticism again. Obama is a sacred cow and Trump is a complete demonic icon. I would disagree since both aren't simply black and white and both have their ups and downs.

Back to the topic though, nobody here has told me with a straight damn face that there is no problem with the immigration enforcement. Nobody here has told me with a fucking straight face that the pampered treatment some illegal immigrants are getting here are just. Instead we'd just like to keep it at that because they're good for business so we just set aside the legalities. The half measured actions of before are the ones that dug the graves of where we are today. I understand as well that we will hurt if we kick them out. Therefore I think the correct thing to do at this point is do a program for them that will legitimize them. However I also think that once that is done, any future scenarios should be treated with fairness. Those who offended the immigration law by crossing borders illegally shall be deported. We need an iron hand for this case. The more we let things continue as such the more meaningless the system becomes. This won't stop by itself.

If you think that tipping the law for a specific set of people is just then I feel like everything is lost here. I don't even know why I should trust the system nor pay my due taxes. And the replies over here about how they're willing to welcome such injustice makes me say that the 10 years I've spent are complete fucking waste. Thanks for making me regret that we didn't leave with my mother when she left in 2006 and just entered US illegally. Since apparently, nobody gives a fuck if I'm an illegal immigrant and will embrace me with open arms and fight for my rights!

Most white Americans cannot trace their lineage to 1775 (American indepedence):

https://www.quora.com/About-what-percentage-of-white-Americans-today-descend-from-immigrants-who-arrived-after-the-Revolutionary-War

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2013/10/03/what-percentage-of-u-s-population-is-foreign-born/

That means even their families at some point were immigrants here. 

Industrialization doesn't change anything, there were plenty of Irish, Italians, Dutch, Germans, French, etc. that came to America looking for better oppurtunity. Kinda the same reason Mexican people come today. Hell, Trump's own family does not extend very far back in the US, his grandfather came to the US in the 1800s ... look for (you guessed it) better oppurtunities to raise his family in. 

There's always been several million Mexicans in America from the point that California, New Mexico, Utah, (basically the entire West Coast) etc. became states ... these people were there before anyone else already as that was Mexico to begin with. The border was redrawn around where they already lived, they didn't immigrate anywhere. 

On top of that 25% of the population in the very first census (circa 1776) were African American slaves who basically built much of the nation. That means even in the 1700s, the US already had a larger portion of a non-white population than many multicultural European countries do today. And then you had Chinese laborers too. So America has always been a multi-ethnic settler nation.