Trump has decided to end DACA

[GhaudePhaede010]

iron_megalith said:

Soundwave said:

A catch basin is at least something, no one else did anything. These kids will be legalized as Republicans likely do not want to be destroyed in the next 4-5 elections (why hello there Florida) and even a majority of Trump supporters want to see DACA kids stay. 

You do not do a half assed measure and say hey I did something. He had two terms to push and address such issues and yet he didn't go all out.

But then again I understand the hindrances from other sides but still doesn't make it inexcusable that he is talking trash about the administration's approach regarding this matter.

 

GhaudePhaede010 said:

The problem with this post, aside from blaming Obama senselessly, is that it does not directly address my point. My point is probably avoided because it is difficult to address directly. However, no greater solution will come by talking about the previous president and laws that not only are not relevant today, but really did not help or hinder immigration when they were applied.

Since I am from California, I know first hand that a lot of what you just claimed is a lie. However, there is no point in going back and forth because people that want to push the buck and blame unto others recklessly are very difficult to communicate with since they tend to have a lack of focus for the topic at hand.

Jesus Christ. I am lying?

Guess my personal contacts on hospitals and schools were lying about how taken for granted these welfares given. Not to mention acting all damn entitled when some of them are probably paying close to nill.

Also I am not just blaming Obama. Have you read my statement? Or are you too blind to see? What I am saying here is that he has no fucking right to completely point fingers at people.

Anyway this thread like most political threads has devolved into fanaticism again. Obama is a sacred cow and Trump is a complete demonic icon. I would disagree since both aren't simply black and white and both have their ups and downs.

Back to the topic though, nobody here has told me with a straight damn face that there is no problem with the immigration enforcement. Nobody here has told me with a fucking straight face that the pampered treatment some illegal immigrants are getting here are just. Instead we'd just like to keep it at that because they're good for business so we just set aside the legalities. The half measured actions of before are the ones that dug the graves of where we are today. I understand as well that we will hurt if we kick them out. Therefore I think the correct thing to do at this point is do a program for them that will legitimize them. However I also think that once that is done, any future scenarios should be treated with fairness. Those who offended the immigration law by crossing borders illegally shall be deported. We need an iron hand for this case. The more we let things continue as such the more meaningless the system becomes. This won't stop by itself.

If you think that tipping the law for a specific set of people is just then I feel like everything is lost here. I don't even know why I should trust the system nor pay my due taxes. And the replies over here about how they're willing to welcome such injustice makes me say that the 10 years I've spent are complete fucking waste. Thanks for making me regret that we didn't leave with my mother when she left in 2006 and just entered US illegally. Since apparently, nobody gives a fuck if I'm an illegal immigrant and will embrace me with open arms and fight for my rights!

Hahahaha. Your, "contacts" lmaooooo. I became a legal citizen through California. I do not need a contact, I lived that life.

At least you believe treating children the way Trump intends upon doing is not the right way to do things. However, you avoided the specific problem still. That children are being victimized. I do not care about how you would plan to treat adults... or even the greater illegal immagration dillema. I care about if you believe what Trump intends to do to children is humane. Additionally, I want to know if people can converse about this specific topic and find a reasonable solution.

I do not know the point of your final paragraph. It does manage to push buck and blame... you are good at that.