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Pemalite on 26 June 2017
Peh said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Giant ice wall? Sounds like they've been watching too much Game of Thrones

If the giant icewall wasn't enough. There are ships patroling around it to stop people who want to see the edge of the world. Appearently to them, it's immpossible to reach the southpole....or fly over it... I'm not sure if they believe in a magnetic southpole, at all. It wouldn't work with their idiotic model of a flat earth. So, only a magnetic northpole exists. And like I said, gravity doesn't exist, but magnetism does and that's what keeps us on the ground. It doesn't make any sense, at all. 

I have had plenty of rodeo's with Flat Earthers. I am yet to receive any kind of photographic or videographic evidence of this ice-wall or glass dome.

And you know, burden of proof and all that.

As for the magnetic poles... They do believe it. Just a little differently.


Nymeria said:
It goes to show a species does not uniformly advance. Why I bought District 9's premise of the worker drones having no clue how their own ships work. If you stripped away the structures of society about 97% of us would die within a few years. People love the comfort modernity and science has given them, but most still have no clue how much or any of it works.

District 9 was actually a pretty intelligent movie once you start to break it down and analyse social structures of not just the humans, but of the aliens too.

Trying to understand science, physics and evidence is something everyone should aspire towards.
There was a Theistic debate here on the forums not long ago and one poster claimed that an aspect of quantum mechanics was "Pseudo-Physics". Which was one of the most hilarious things I have seen for a long time.
They also clearly dont see the irony when they expect evidence for one thing but faith for another.

IkePoR said:

I'm surprised this wasn't touched on in the OP.  This has to be the single most idiotic thing anyone could do.  Forget a flat earther - they aren't hurting anyone but other gullible, borderline retarded individuals. An anti-vaxer is endangering children, their own and others even if they're vaccinated.  

If only natural selection could have been more bias to these morons before they had offspring.

Flat Earthers play into all of that.
Chances are if you can disregard evidence and science and believe the Earth is flat, then you probably think vaccinations are poison.

And let's make one thing clear. Not all flat earthers are idiots. They just strongly believe what they believe because for whatever reason. And often it's because of the Bible. (Another thing it got incorrect.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

"Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day."

Qwark said:

I game for the larger part of my live. Yet I know what CPU, GPU and what the Motherboard do. I don't have a single clue hoe it works other than and I quote captain america for this one "It seems to run some sort of electricity" and sends positive and negative signals to a transistor which counts it and a code with 0's and 1's made which somehow makes me able to play games. I have no idea how to build computerparts or what the structural difference is between a CPU and a GPU.

I assumed that everyone would have done some basic micro-controller/robotics/electronics/programming in school. I know it was a requirement at my school 15+ years ago... But I was already passionate about such things anyway.
I used to grit my teeth when my teacher would use incorrect PC technology terms whilst teaching in my I.T. class.

As for the difference between a CPU and a GPU... The simplified explanation is that the main difference is a CPU will process information generally, sequentually. So it has a couple of large, fast cores for that task.
A GPU will process information in a parallel fashion, so it has small, slow cores, but can have thousands of them.



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Mnementh on 27 June 2017
Qwark said:
Nymeria said:

Exactly, I'm much the same way.  

When labor and society became so specialized we don't need to be aware.  This can filter across though when people think their ignorance is equal to another's knowledge.  If you have a question about vaccines, talk to people in medical fields, don't discuss it with Janice at work who heard on the internet it causes autism.  This becomes a problem when other's ignorance then can adversely affect us, especially if they can infludence others.  

In a previous post I called this the Facebook gen phenomenon. In which people assume their coworker or Facebook is more reliable than an evidence based journal or article written by a professional. This one is dangerous because more and more people seem to be very much into Facebook and Twitter news which has very little credibility or they just blindly follow youtube celebrities which neatly always try to push a certain agenda. 

Yeah, that's nothing new to Facebook or Internet. These people just believed their neighbor, the preacher that came through town or their clan leader in the past. With similar results. The only difference the Internet make, is that community of idiots can be global now.



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pleaserecycle on 27 June 2017
Qwark said:
Nymeria said:

Exactly, I'm much the same way.  

When labor and society became so specialized we don't need to be aware.  This can filter across though when people think their ignorance is equal to another's knowledge.  If you have a question about vaccines, talk to people in medical fields, don't discuss it with Janice at work who heard on the internet it causes autism.  This becomes a problem when other's ignorance then can adversely affect us, especially if they can infludence others.  

In a previous post I called this the Facebook gen phenomenon. In which people assume their coworker or Facebook is more reliable than an evidence based journal or article written by a professional. This one is dangerous because more and more people seem to be very much into Facebook and Twitter news which has very little credibility or they just blindly follow youtube celebrities which neatly always try to push a certain agenda. 

I think there's an underlying issue in which, as children, we're taught so many ideas without explanations.  Most of us will probably never think about the earth being round again because it doesn't directly impact our daily routine.  But we might encounter someone with an interesting question: if the earth is round, then why are railroad tracks straight?  We may not know the answer and we may not know how to find it.  At this point we don't have any explanation for why the earth is round, but we have a reason, which actually seems very intuitive, negating it.



Diablos1979 on 27 June 2017
pleaserecycle said:
Qwark said:

In a previous post I called this the Facebook gen phenomenon. In which people assume their coworker or Facebook is more reliable than an evidence based journal or article written by a professional. This one is dangerous because more and more people seem to be very much into Facebook and Twitter news which has very little credibility or they just blindly follow youtube celebrities which neatly always try to push a certain agenda. 

I think there's an underlying issue in which, as children, we're taught so many ideas without explanations.  Most of us will probably never think about the earth being round again because it doesn't directly impact our daily routine.  But we might encounter someone with an interesting question: if the earth is round, then why are railroad tracks straight?  We may not know the answer and we may not know how to find it.  At this point we don't have any explanation for why the earth is round, but we have a reason, which actually seems very intuitive, negating it.

Yes we do, it's called gravity :)



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pleaserecycle on 27 June 2017
Diablos1979 said:
pleaserecycle said:

I think there's an underlying issue in which, as children, we're taught so many ideas without explanations.  Most of us will probably never think about the earth being round again because it doesn't directly impact our daily routine.  But we might encounter someone with an interesting question: if the earth is round, then why are railroad tracks straight?  We may not know the answer and we may not know how to find it.  At this point we don't have any explanation for why the earth is round, but we have a reason, which actually seems very intuitive, negating it.

Yes we do, it's called gravity :)

I should have phrased my bolded text as, "At this point we don't have any evidence showing that the earth is round...".  My point being that I can understand how someone believes the earth is flat because we mostly experience a "flat" earth.  It seems especially plausible when we start thinking about why cross-country railroad pieces are flat.  Could flat railroad pieces exist in a round world?  I don't think the solution is very intuitive, but we can demonstrate it by zooming into the edge of a circle and prove it using mathematics.  Even so, we haven't debunked a flat or round earth; we have only shown that flat railroad pieces can exist in both.  



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forest-spirit on 27 June 2017

I'm actually quite surprised that these people are capable of producing videos. With that kind of stupidity I wouldn't expect them to be able to get out of bed.



SvennoJ on 27 June 2017
pleaserecycle said:
Diablos1979 said:

Yes we do, it's called gravity :)

I should have phrased my bolded text as, "At this point we don't have any evidence showing that the earth is round...".  My point being that I can understand how someone believes the earth is flat because we mostly experience a "flat" earth.  It seems especially plausible when we start thinking about why cross-country railroad pieces are flat.  Could flat railroad pieces exist in a round world?  I don't think the solution is very intuitive, but we can demonstrate it by zooming into the edge of a circle and prove it using mathematics.  Even so, we haven't debunked a flat or round earth; we have only shown that flat railroad pieces can exist in both.  

How do flat earthers explain this?

Or timezones, gps, different night sky in the southern hemisphere, seasons, etc. Btw railroad pieces aren't flat, they bend, how do trains go around corners or up hills otherwise ;) I don't know what is taught in school though. My kids know the earth is a globe and about gravity although they probably don't fully understand it yet. They get their science taught through games. Like centrifugal force, swinging a bucket around on a rope so the water stays in. Not hat much of a leap to go to the reverse to understand gravity as a force with a central point.



Pemalite on 27 June 2017
Shadow1980 said:
Somewhere along the line, conspiracy theories became increasingly mainstream and people felt increasingly entitled to reject scientific and historical facts as part of some great big hoax perpetrated by "They" (governments, corporations, "international communism," "Nebulous Evil Organization Hiding in the Shadows," etc.).

Global warming denial. The anti-vaccination movement. The anti-GMO movement. AIDS denial. All sorts of conspiracy theories, including everything that comes out of Alex Jones' big, obnoxious mouth. It all comes from the same mindset, this idea that the "official" story is always a Big Lie from The Powers That Be. For whatever reason, some people simply refuse to acknowledge certain facts and invent their own "alternative facts." And the internet has helped this nonsense propagate.

Or one of my favorites was a One Nation candidate here in Australia claiming Homosexuals use Nazi-styled mind control to force people to support Same-sex marriage.

And there is a subset of people that believe it too!

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/wa-one-nation-candidate-claims-gay-community-using-nazistyle-mind-control-20170214-gucoay.html

Whatever happened to evidence? Seriously.



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Pemalite on 28 June 2017
Hiku said:

China Southern Airlines #CZ380 delayed 5 hours after woman throws coins into engine to pray for peace at Shanghai
<SNIP>

oml



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Helloplite on 28 June 2017

The oddest thing of all is the false belief that people used to believe the Earth is flat. Round Earth has been a theory since the Ancient Greeks, and the whole thing is a load of malarkey.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

Most cultures knew the Earth was spherical for centuries.