Hiku said:
barneystinson69 said:
But then let me get back to my original point, what part of the deal makes the US more competitive? Because what I am hearing is a bit of bullshit from a few people.
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Here's how companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc, worded it in their joint letter to Trump:
Climate change presents both business risks and business opportunities. Continued U.S. participation in the agreement benefits U.S. businesses and the U.S. economy in many ways:
- Strengthening Competitiveness: By requiring action by developed and developing countries alike, the agreement ensures a more balanced global effort, reducing the risk of competitive imbalances for U.S. companies.
- Creating Jobs, Markets and Growth: By expanding markets for innovative clean technologies, the agreement generates jobs and economic growth. U.S. companies are well positioned to lead in these markets. Withdrawing from the agreement will limit our access to them and could expose us to retaliatory measures.
- Reducing Business Risks: By strengthening global action over time, the agreement will reduce future climate impacts, including damage to business facilities and operations, declining agricultural productivity and water supplies, and disruption of global supply chains.
As businesses concerned with the well-being of our customers, our investors, our communities, and our suppliers, we are strengthening our climate resilience, and we are investing in innovative technologies that can help achieve a clean energy transition. For this transition to succeed, however, governments must lead as well.
U.S. business is best served by a stable and practical framework facilitating an effective and balanced global response. The Paris Agreement provides such a framework. As other countries invest in advanced technologies and move forward with the Paris Agreement, we believe the United States can best exercise global leadership and advance U.S. interests by remaining a full partner in this vital global effort.
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"US Companies". So not the US itself, but companies? "Exercise global leadership?" These words are very empty and extremely vague. I was asking how this will benefit people economically. Realistically, the climate deal cannot reach its carbon targets in time. Here in Canada, Trudeau wants to introduce a carbon tax so as to help with this. Of course it won't work, but it will cost the average joe more money for everything. The 2 degree mark will be passed whether we like it or not. If you want to help, stop using heat, your AC, your car, stop buying all groceries at super markets (shipping produces lots of Carbon), stop using your TV and internet, ect. Also, stop buying beef, because cows produce lots of methane and require lots of crops to be fed. No one will be willing to give up all of this, so yeah, good luck!
Like I said, the US can invest in green energy without a climate deal which forces 1st world nations to give cash to 3rd world nations (and how can we say with confidence that money won't go to the top where it is never actually spent properly).
Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).