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There, indeed, was an FBI wiretap involving Russians at Trump Tower.

But it was not placed at the behest of Barack Obama, and the target was not the Trump campaign of 2016. For two years ending in 2013, the FBI had a court-approved warrant to eavesdrop on a sophisticated Russian organized crime money-laundering network that operated out of unit 63A in Trump Tower in New York.

Seven months after the April 2013 indictment and after Interpol issued a red notice for Tokhtakhounov, he appeared near Donald Trump in the VIP section of the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. Trump had sold the Russian rights for Miss Universe to a billionaire Russian shopping mall developer.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198



FIT_Gamer said:
Zkuq said:

Asking people to watch an 80-minute video just to be able to discuss its credibility is just stupid. That's kind of like saying you can't say drugs are bad without trying them first. You can make fairly reasonable assumptions about a video like this even without watching it. They might not be correct, but there's a good chance they are.

It's actually nothing even remotely like that. How can claim the content of something is "clickbait" when you don't even what the content is? 

These things usually are. If there was anything credible, it would probably be more or less widely reported by now. Media is so quick to jump on anything that's against Trump that it would be strange if it was credible but wasn't reported.



Goatseye said:
There, indeed, was an FBI wiretap involving Russians at Trump Tower.

But it was not placed at the behest of Barack Obama, and the target was not the Trump campaign of 2016. For two years ending in 2013, the FBI had a court-approved warrant to eavesdrop on a sophisticated Russian organized crime money-laundering network that operated out of unit 63A in Trump Tower in New York.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

What an odd coincidence that Trump had a massive Russian money-laundering network operating out of Trump Tower. What a strange coincidence indeed. So many coincidences ...



FIT_Gamer don't bother. People that don't want to watch it, or didn't get pass the intro has already made up their mind to not listen to hard facts.



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FIT_Gamer said:
numberwang said:
I wasted my time watching the first ten minutes... if you make a drinking game for every "maybe", "could be", "potentially" "allegedly" you'll be drunk like Yeltsin.

No evidence, just talking heads with drivel trying to sway the feeble minded.

If you only watched the first 10 minutes you didn't even get passed the introduction. Start at around the 24 minute mark. 

Just name the "Russian mobster" and state clearly what crime has occurred with Trump.



Zkuq said:
FIT_Gamer said:

It's actually nothing even remotely like that. How can claim the content of something is "clickbait" when you don't even what the content is? 

These things usually are. If there was anything credible, it would probably be more or less widely reported by now. Media is so quick to jump on anything that's against Trump that it would be strange if it was credible but wasn't reported.

This documentary is coming out the Netherlands it's only been up for 4 days. It's getting coverage in the UK and Europe. Just not here in US yet. 



FIT_Gamer said:
Zkuq said:

These things usually are. If there was anything credible, it would probably be more or less widely reported by now. Media is so quick to jump on anything that's against Trump that it would be strange if it was credible but wasn't reported.

This documentary is coming out the Netherlands it's only been up for 4 days. It's getting coverage in the UK and Europe. Just not here in US yet. 

Ah, in that case I'm expecting to hear a condensed version of this in a few days, or a few weeks at longest, assuming this really is credible as you claim. Should be interesting! I'm not in the US though so US coverage isn't really important to me. I expect it to blow up like everything about Trump if it's big.



FIT_Gamer said:
Aeolus451 said:

It's not in any of the news (mainstream or alternative). Most likely the things in it are sketchy, come from sketchy people or just unsubstantial info otherwise any news related group would be all over it. This stuff is no different than the birther stuff about obama. 

So what you're saying is you didn't watch it. So again how is it click bait?

Zhuq basically said what I was gonna reply with but I'll add onto it with my own words. It's a "documentary" and none of the news is mentioning it. It's not worth my time to figure out if it's legit or not. It's not like the Red Pill documentary where alot of people are talking about it and recommending it to others. It's not worth taking seriously.

Zkuq said:
FIT_Gamer said:

So what you're saying is you didn't watch it. So again how is it click bait?

Asking people to watch an 80-minute video just to be able to discuss its credibility is just stupid. That's kind of like saying you can't say drugs are bad without trying them first. You can make fairly reasonable assumptions about a video like this even without watching it. They might not be correct, but there's a good chance they are.

Thanks for piping in and explaining that.



Two hours ago the FBI raided a political firm in Annapolis, Maryland by the name of Strategic Campaign Group. Palmer Report’s own research team has since been able to determine that the firm in question has ties to Trump campaign advisers Paul Manafort and Roger Stone (link). But it turns out the firm also has ties to Donald Trump’s Taj Mahal casino – which has suddenly come into focus this month for its past federal penalties for money laundering.

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/taj-annapolis-fbi/2759/
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long