Quantcast
Global Hardware (04/01/17)

Forums - Latest Charts - Global Hardware (04/01/17)

^ ^ THIS ^^



DON'T WIN ME CHIBI BUDDY DON'T WIN ME.

ANIMAL CROSSING NEW LEAF FRIEND CODE:- 5129 1175 1029. MESSAGE ME.
ANDY MURRAY:- GRAND SLAM WINNER!

In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

Around the Network

Availability is killing both 3ds and switch sales.



    The NINTENDO PACT 2015[2016  Vgchartz Wii U Achievement League! - Sign up now!                      My T.E.C.H'aracter

Barkley said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
The 9th generation has officially begun.

"9th generation" how adorable! The switch doesn't belong in an industry-wide generation, but if you do insist on cramming it into one for some reason I'd be interested to know what defines the Switch as being in the "9th gen" when (assuming the PS5 launches 2020):

It'll share more of it's software library with PS4 than PS5.
It's release date will likely be closer to PS4 than PS5.
It's closer in power to PS4
It'll spend more of it's life on the market against PS4 than PS5.

So what makes this device more fitting to be in a group with PS5 than PS4?

Whether you choose to define generation by time, power or software "ninth-gen" certainly doesn't seem to make sense. Though ushering in a fictional ninth-generation is a convenient way to move-on from recent performances, both by Nintendo themselves with the WiiU and their competitors with the PS4.

Let's not get bogged down by Archaic terminology and shackle the switch to some "generation" because apparently it has to be in one. There's no reason you have to put it in one.

Generations are defined by brand new hardware. It's pretty easy stuff.



There is nowhere near the hype for the Switch as there was the Wii. It also suffered major stock problems in its boom days.

The Switch is a replacement for both 3DS and Wii U. It's no surprise that it's sales are big despite a lack luster software line up.

I think it sells great the first 3 years as all the big Wii U and 3DS franchises hit the platform. Then sales will settle down.



NATO said:
peachbuggy said:

Tbh the graphs were so small i couldn't even see the figures. Again, your projections are based on hope, what actual evidence do you have to predict the switch will fall into a baseline under the ps4? Especially when sales are purely related to stock atm. Whatever comes into the retail channel is sold out within literally hours and i don't see that changing any time soon.

you're not worth any further effort, i'll let the reality of the next few months of sales data educate you instead.

...Tough to argue with THIS logic.. Haha



Around the Network
Kerotan said:
There is nowhere near the hype for the Switch as there was the Wii. It also suffered major stock problems in its boom days.

The Switch is a replacement for both 3DS and Wii U. It's no surprise that it's sales are big despite a lack luster software line up.

I think it sells great the first 3 years as all the big Wii U and 3DS franchises hit the platform. Then sales will settle down.

Like you wrote, Switch will be replacement for both 3DS and Wii U (currently still isn't because price point and fact that 3DSs is still very live on market), and that basicly means much better support and with more diverse games buy Nintendo (but also buy 3rd party) than before, no to mention that we could have more than one hevi hitter games like 3D Mario, 3D Zelda and obvious Pokemon.

Other point is that most likely Switch will compatible even with new and more powerful Switch hardware, something similar like PS4 and Pro.



DarthMetalliCube said:
NATO said:

you're not worth any further effort, i'll let the reality of the next few months of sales data educate you instead.

...Tough to argue with THIS logic.. Haha

Switch is doing really well, regardless of what ps4 is doing. Ps4 average was 150k-200k a week in the post launch (non holiday) period back in 2014.



Think for yourself, question authority

Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:

I never said it did, I was asking what his defintion of generation was to make it so that Switch is in a group with ps5, when from a power, software and time perspective it's closer to PS4.

Switch is nintendo's next generation system, but there's no logical reason to group it with PS5, and there's no reason to group it with other systems either.

Again, I gave you clear examples that power of console does dont effect on generations of consoles, so power in that matter is not important in any case.

Second, Switch is released 3.5 years after PS4, if we got PS5 in 2019/2020 it can actually be closer to PS4 in time frame. Only fact we know for now is that Switch is next Nintendo gen console, but we don't know if will Switch be considered part of PS4 or PS5 group, and I don't think that really matters.

Bruh, like I said. I was giving all the possibilities that he or anyone else could believe are the defintion of a generation, I did not say they were all correct, but even if he thought it was correct it still wouldn't support a notion that Switch is part of some theoretical "ninth-generation".

I did also put in my original post "assuming ps5 launches 2020", but anyway. Switch released approximately 3 years and 3 months after PS4, so for it to be closer in release date to PS5, PS5 would have to launch before June 2020, I don't see a PlayStation releasing outside of the holiday period, it could be a holiday 2019 release though.

You're right generations don't matter, and as miguel said earlier in the thread, they're a dated concept, and either used as A. a way to be negative about the Switch or B. A way to conveniently move on from current systems and attempt to avoid comparisons.



Predictions (Made July 2019)

LTD: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m       2019 : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m        2020: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)


Kerotan said:
There is nowhere near the hype for the Switch as there was the Wii. It also suffered major stock problems in its boom days.

The Switch is a replacement for both 3DS and Wii U. It's no surprise that it's sales are big despite a lack luster software line up.

I think it sells great the first 3 years as all the big Wii U and 3DS franchises hit the platform. Then sales will settle down.

I think it will take longer than 3 years for all the big franchises to be out being the successor to 2 platforms.



Wyrdness said:
Kerotan said:
There is nowhere near the hype for the Switch as there was the Wii. It also suffered major stock problems in its boom days.

The Switch is a replacement for both 3DS and Wii U. It's no surprise that it's sales are big despite a lack luster software line up.

I think it sells great the first 3 years as all the big Wii U and 3DS franchises hit the platform. Then sales will settle down.

I think it will take longer than 3 years for all the big franchises to be out being the successor to 2 platforms.

Maybe, really depends how fast Nintendo can pump out games now it can focus on one system.

Honestly I'd expect Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2d Mario and Smash Bros out in less than 3 years, and Fire Emblem is next year too, not sure what Big Franchises will be still missing, probably forgot something though.

Though I don't think Switch is going to be particurly front-loaded like Kerotan says.



Predictions (Made July 2019)

LTD: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m       2019 : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m        2020: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)