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barneystinson69 on 10 May 2017
Zkuq said:
barneystinson69 said:

His days were numbered either way, especially with how he handled the email thing. And investigations have already been put into Russian collaboration since the election - nothing has shown a direct connection with Trump so far. Its been 7 months, yet nothing has come up. Its a story that the leftist media has been dragging on because they want to find something to destroy his presidency, but the simple fact is that the Russian's did not "rig" the election...

Oh, so they're investigating nothing, just to make it look bad for Trump, after basically giving Trump the election victory? Investigations can take a lot of time, especially when there's powerful people involved. This isn't a routine investigation. Also, it'd be foolish to think Russia had nothing to do with the election for sure. Maybe it didn't, or maybe the effect was quite small, but I doubt you have access to the information necessary to make any kind of conclusions about the situation. Neither do I, but I'm not claiming anything to be certain about the situation.

Of course Russia "influenced" the election! Hell I'm sure other countries have tried in the past, and I'm sure the United States have done the same (in fact, they did with Russia in the 90s as well). That was apparent with wiki-leaks. Even so, the Russians didn't hack the machines, they didn't force people to vote Trump, and the ballots weren't stuffed, meaning the election wasn't rigged. I understand investigations, but when the media is painting this as Trump working with Russia, when nothing has come out to prove that, I do have an issue with that.



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DarthVolod on 10 May 2017
Machiavellian said:
DarthVolod said:

Take off the tin foil hat; Comy's fate was sealed long ago. 

Hillary would have fired him too (probably one of the first things she would have done; most likely while cackling with that inhuman laugh of hers)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-james-comey.html?_r=0

 

No matter who won the election, Comy was going to lose. 

The problem is that Trump praised Comy for the same action he is now firing him for.  In other words as usual, Trump word means nothing.  It changes as fast and fluid as the sea and always to his benifit.  Even if Comy firing is legit, talk about just bone headed timing just like firing Flynn or the list of other firings he has done.  

I'm not defending it, I'm just saying let's not create some double standard here. Hillary woud have fired him for the same hypocritical reasoning (they loved him when he recommended that Hillary should not be prosecuted, but then they turned on him when he directed more attention to the emais and wanted to reopen the investigation). Comy made enemies on both sides, he was losing his job no matter what (and both sides are hypocrites; praising and roasting the man depending on who's side he is helping or harming that particular week).



areason on 10 May 2017

Good riddance, he was shit.



StarOcean on 10 May 2017
barneystinson69 said:
Zkuq said:

There's no proof because he just fired the guy leading the investigation in whether he collaborated with the Russians. How can it be that hard to see? Now I'm not saying there could have been, or will be, any proof, or that he did collaborate with Russia, but if he did, this sure is a good move to hide it. He's brought this on himself, collaboration with Russia or not.

His days were numbered either way, especially with how he handled the email thing. And investigations have already been put into Russian collaboration since the election - nothing has shown a direct connection with Trump so far. Its been 7 months, yet nothing has come up. Its a story that the leftist media has been dragging on because they want to find something to destroy his presidency, but the simple fact is that the Russian's did not "rig" the election...

You do realize these types of investigations can take years to complete, right? This isn't a crime show where the evidence and data comes all together in 60 minutes... Hypothetically they might find all the evidence post Trump-era. Whether or not he did or did not is not what I am arguing here though. What I am, is telling you investigations aren't solved overnight. This is the same fallacy as the "how can global warming be real if it snowed in December?" deal. They arent super duper fast. They need to be precise. Especially with massive accusations such as this one.



monocle_layton on 10 May 2017
barneystinson69 said:

Suddenly its a big deal, because of RUSSIA! RUSSIA! PUTIN SAID SO! TRUMP IS CONTROLLED!!! #ORANGEMANISCONTROLLED

The Hillary supporters wanted this fucker fired for "losing" her the election; but now that Trump has done it, suddenly its RUSSIA! RUSSIA!! RUSSA!!

 

Even though no proof has shown Trump colaberated with the Russians... 

 

ITS STILL THE RUSSIANS!

 

He was incompetent, we can all agree on that.

 

I could care less on liberals or conservatives. They're flipfloppity. Have you seen them and wikileaks? One day they love them, the next day they hate them. I'll prefer to see the corruption in both sides.



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jason1637 on 10 May 2017
Nem said:
jason1637 said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure. Pilot killed people with no evidence, bush started useless wars and a huge recession happened when he was President. Jonq-UN literally has deprived people of their rights and many North Koreans starve under his shit leadership.  Trump has done some pretty bad things thus far but he's far from being as bad as a leader as the ones Spurge mentioned  

As opposed to... possibly start a war with North korea(and china), let thousands of people die without health ensurance and dropping bombs on Syria and blowing the budget on a xenofobic wall and possibly colluding with Russia to get elected?

Sure, he hasn't made himself dictator so far, but...this in 3 months?! Haha... you are extremely trusting or you know... the other option. 

I wouldn't put my money down on him not running it all down quite yet.

After his meeting with Chinas President it seems like the US and China are in good standings. As for North Korea they have been pushing it way before Trump was elected. The ways Republiucans have been handheling healthcare has been really bad but nothing has gone through yet. Syria deserved the bombs something had to be done to send a message. The wall is a bad move as for Russia its been like what 6 months since we heard that there might be something going on and nothing has come out.



Zkuq on 10 May 2017
barneystinson69 said:
Zkuq said:

Oh, so they're investigating nothing, just to make it look bad for Trump, after basically giving Trump the election victory? Investigations can take a lot of time, especially when there's powerful people involved. This isn't a routine investigation. Also, it'd be foolish to think Russia had nothing to do with the election for sure. Maybe it didn't, or maybe the effect was quite small, but I doubt you have access to the information necessary to make any kind of conclusions about the situation. Neither do I, but I'm not claiming anything to be certain about the situation.

Of course Russia "influenced" the election! Hell I'm sure other countries have tried in the past, and I'm sure the United States have done the same (in fact, they did with Russia in the 90s as well). That was apparent with wiki-leaks. Even so, the Russians didn't hack the machines, they didn't force people to vote Trump, and the ballots weren't stuffed, meaning the election wasn't rigged. I understand investigations, but when the media is painting this as Trump working with Russia, when nothing has come out to prove that, I do have an issue with that.

I haven't been following American media so I can't say how the American media has been painting the situation*, but over here, I haven't been the impression that Trump is being painted as working with Russia. All I've been hearing is it's being investigated whether there's something suspicious going on or not. That's a huge difference.

*Actually I've seen a few titles and that's about it, but everything I've seen has been quite factual and not painting Trump as working with Russia. Are you sure Trump is painted as guilty here, or are you just choosing to interpret the situation that way? This is an honest question, because I haven't been following the media over there and everything I've seen suggests otherwise.



-CraZed- on 10 May 2017
Jpcc86 said:
Theres absolutely nothing suspicious about this at all.

You are absolutely correct. 

His firing was requested by his actual boss, the Deputy US Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The FBI director is a direct report of the DAG. The DAG wrote a letter to the AG requesting that he ask the POTUS fire Director Comey. And he did. 

And before people starting calling the man a Trump stooge or shill, he has a long and distinguished career in law and governement and was confirmed 96-4. He has worked for both Bill Clinton and George Bush. He was sponsored, during his confirmation, by two Democrat senators. 



AsGryffynn on 10 May 2017
-CraZed- said:
Jpcc86 said:
Theres absolutely nothing suspicious about this at all.

You are absolutely correct. 

His firing was requested by his actual boss, the Deputy US Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The FBI director is a direct report of the DAG. The DAG wrote a letter to the AG requesting that he ask the POTUS fire Director Comey. And he did. 

And before people starting calling the man a Trump stooge or shill, he has a long and distinguished career in law and governement and was confirmed 96-4. He has worked for both Bill Clinton and George Bush. He was sponsored, during his confirmation, by two Democrat senators. 

Apparently, in some states, there are people who don't know what the capital of their bloody home is. Do you honestly believe these people know how the FBI and Judicial system of the US works? 



FIT_Gamer on 10 May 2017

The Washington Post just posted an interesting article about the Child in Chief.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.9ce9012362a6