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Angelus said:
How are those shows these days? Arrow literally fell off a cliff halfway through season 3, and got progressively worse from there....last season I watched there was a blonde Darth Vader running around. Awful. Flash had a promising first season, but then for some reason they decided why put work into season 2 when you can just basically rehash the plot of the first season, but just add a lot more terrible CGI and cliche side plots to it....Watched up until a few episodes from the finale, hoping it would eventually turn the corner but...just couldn't bring myself to go on till the end.

Only ever watched like 2 episodes of Legends of Tomorrow. Didn't hook me. Never seen an episode of Supergirl, trailers made it look like a show pretty much exclusively for chicks.

Have you seen Arrow season 5?  They did a complete 180, this season (unless something bad happens in the last 5 episodes) is easily the best season yet(yes better than 1/2). Prometheus has been a phenomenal villain, and olicity is dead.  Flash is still good, but season 2/3 have been a step down from season 1.  Legends season 2 is just as good as arrow seasons 1/2/5 and flash season 1. And super girl is good but not great.



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Angelus said:
How are those shows these days? Arrow literally fell off a cliff halfway through season 3, and got progressively worse from there....last season I watched there was a blonde Darth Vader running around. Awful. Flash had a promising first season, but then for some reason they decided why put work into season 2 when you can just basically rehash the plot of the first season, but just add a lot more terrible CGI and cliche side plots to it....Watched up until a few episodes from the finale, hoping it would eventually turn the corner but...just couldn't bring myself to go on till the end.

Only ever watched like 2 episodes of Legends of Tomorrow. Didn't hook me. Never seen an episode of Supergirl, trailers made it look like a show pretty much exclusively for chicks.

My Thoughts

Arrow

Firstly Season 2 is my favorite season and I agree that Season 3/4 were crap, awful plots, too much Olicity stuff and really poorly used villains however Season 5 is really back to the shows roots (S1/S2) with a really great villain which I'd say might become my favorite Arrow villain thus far if this quality is kept up so yeah I'm loving Season 5 so far and also the villain isn't a meta and he also doesn't just rely on brute force (Oliver would most likely win in that regard) his main focus is mind games, in that regard he is the best villain.

Flash

I've enjoyed all The Flash seasons but the reveal of season 2 really put a damper on the season for me and also Season 3 is 'good' but they're really dragging the villain reveal, it's had a few shaky moments and I'm getting really fed up of Speedster villains, thankfully Season 4 villain is confirmed not to be a speedster.

Legends

Season 1 just felt like a fun filler show to watch xD. I wasn't really invested in it that much, the plot was pretty meh mainly because of the two crappy main characters of the plot, I'd say Season 2 is much better than Season 1, the crappy characters are removed, it's more fun, has a better storyline and an awesome villain cast.

 

Arrow S5 >>>> Legends S2 >> Flash S3.

 

^ Agree fully with the above user



Nice thread! I've not seen Supergirl yet but I'll give my thoughts on current seasons so far as others have!

Legends of Tomorrow S2

Actually quite dissapointing for me, on an episode by episode basis it was fine, but I felt the overarching story was a lot weaker this season, other than the episode that actually focussed on the legion almost entirely. Doomworld ended too quickly and the entire ending of the season seems nonesensical to me. The Spear of Destiny can rewrite reality, but it's also crap enough that people aren't completely wiped by it. Thus conveniently they can subconciously build a device that somehow gives you back memories that were WIPED FROM REALITY. Reality setting from a focus point, requiring time to fully set I can accept, the spear being crap enough to leave all the legends memories and personality from the original reality burried under the surface I can't. Let's not even talk about the villains leaving the legends alive, it doesn't matter if you have a character voice that it's a dumb idea, that doesn't make it any less stupid and nonesensical. It wasn't just with the spear they left the legends alive though... they had plenty of opportunities during the season to kill one of the legends, I think there was two seperate occasions where in one Damien had a legend injured on the floor and another where Rip had done the same, and instead of finishing them off they just left them injured. It's just not clever writing, "We don't want to kill off this character, but we want there to be some danger, so we'll just have the villain walk away... because... reasons."

Reverse Flash equally wasn't shown well, compared to pretty much all the Legends he's basically a god, yet there really was no sense of fear or power throughout the series in his character. Damien and Malcolm were relegated to lackeys for some episodes, seeming almost incompetent and being unable to aim a bloody gun. These are the same characters from Arrow that could go toe to toe with Oliver right? So yeah I guess my biggest issue with Season 2 was a weak overall story, with the writers not working around any of the issues in a clever way.

I still enjoyed it however, and while I am nervous about the storyline for next season giving the last scene of season 2... I'm looking forward to the next season. 

Arrow S5 (so far)

Talk about a comeback! Prometheus is just an amazing villain, at first I was a little dissapointed at his actual identity, but now I'm happy that he's not someone we knew from a previous season. Phenomenal acting, the psychological warfare... episode 17. Sure there's some contradictary elements to Prometheus's philosophy and reasonings but they can be attributed to a not entirely stable mental state. Also thank god felicity and oliver are not together, though in that regards I am somewhat worried about what I've heard about episode 20, hopefully they put the final nail the coffin to that relationship and don't just open it up again.

I've not got as much to say about this yet as legends, the only big criticism is that the mid-season cliff-hanger was BS. Even the flashbacks are better then they've been since Season 2 at least! They need to nail the pay off at the end of the season, and this will be right up there with Season 1+2.

Flash S3 (so far)

Savitar... he's a better villain than Zoom. I want to say he's my favorite flash villain, but then you can't beat Tom Cavanagh Reverse Flash. Also my opinion on him may change completely if the last few episodes of the season and reveals about Savitar's identity and backstory really suck.

Not overly fond of Wally's story-arc this season, his costume makes him look like a wally too, HA GET IT!??!?!

I don't really know what to say until season 3 is over, but assuming they don't screw up really bad. Season 3 is better than Season 2 imo.

 

I'll also rank the seasons for each show just for the hell of it.

Flash: 1 > 3 > 2

Arrow: 2 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 4

Legends : 1 > 2



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Right, guess I'll have to check out season 5 of Arrow then....suppose there was really nowhere to go but up after the last one



Only watching Supergirl thanks to the recommendation of mah mexican boi. Been a very gay ride, looking forward to monday's episode



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ARamdomGamer said:
Only watching Supergirl thanks to the recommendation of mah mexican boi. Been a very gay ride, looking forward to monday's episode

Supercorp will be on the rise for the next episodes and I love it.



                                                                                     

Any guesses on who Savitar will be.

Arrow episode was alright. Not a fan of Felicity even more now.



green_sky said:
Any guesses on who Savitar will be.

Arrow episode was alright. Not a fan of Felicity even more now.

Time Remnant Barry/Future Barry or Ronnie, after the recent episode I'm leaning more towards Ronnie.

Agreed on Arrow, easily the weakest episode of the season and we have another Olicity episode to come but at least the final 3 sound hype AF lol.



I dont like supergirl much, it is too cheesy for my taste. Arrow so far this season has been decent, even good sometimes. Flash so far i'm kinda in between, this season is not the best for sure. LoT, the season 2 i think is better than the first, It's a fun ride where you dont put too much thought into.

For all the Cable hero show, the best is still Agent of Shield



green_sky said:
Any guesses on who Savitar will be.

Barry, I hope. Dunno who else it could be that makes sense and wouldn't suck.



LTD Sales Predictions: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m
2019 Sales : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m
2020 Sales: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)