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vivster on 01 March 2017
Pemalite said:
vivster said:

Yeah, but who would buy a 1070 if you can get get a 1080ti for just $350 more!

Shouldn't two 1070's overclocked out-bench the 1080 ti though? ;)

That's just bad for the environment.



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JEMC on 01 March 2017
vivster said:
JEMC said:

The 1070 is droping to $349

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-1060-official-price-cut-specs-upgrade/

 

I think we all agree that no one expected Nvidia to make these price drops. I even doubt AMD were expecting this. In any case, better for the consumer.

Yeah, but who would buy a 1070 if you can get get a 1080ti for just $350 more!

Maybe those who couldn't buy a 1080... which is most of the people. Or you don't pay attention to the tables Conina put on the PC thread?

And hey, as Pemalite said, with this price drop there's a lot of people that will think about getting a second 1070 and SLI them.



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Mafioso on 01 March 2017

Hmnn...my 980Ti isn't affected by this 1080 price drop too much, since they still go second hand used for about the price of a 1070.

 

This card should be +10% faster than Titan X. They are claiming 355 faster than 1080, while Titan X was ~22-24% faster than 1080.

I want to say i'm tempted at $699, but reality is waiting for an EVGA FTW2 version may be a while and closer to $750.

Hopefully Vega shows up before then and gives me a compelling reason to look at Team Red, otherwise 1080ti it is.



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Azuren on 01 March 2017

Now seems like s good time to buy a used 1080...



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Kerotan on 01 March 2017
KBG29 said:
Pemalite said:

Most high-end PC's have around 16GB-32GB of Ram these days, Mid-range is usually 8GB-16GB and low end is 4GB and under.

The consoles only have 8GB of Ram, only 5-6GB that is actually usable, so probably only around 2-3GB for the GPU itself... Which does put this VRAM capacity into some perspective. ;)

Yeah, I think it is pretty histarical seeing people think that the current consoles are fine, and we don't need much more RAM. The only reason we don't see more is because SSD is not the standard, and the consoles are so limited. I can't see PS5 having less than 32GB if it comes out in 2019, and much more if it arrives later. I think realisticly we will see a 16GB 4K PS4 model in 2019, and a PS5 with at least 64GB of RAM in 2024. Once consoles make their next leap, and SSD is the standard, I have no doubt, 64GB and 128GB PCs will be a normal thing in the mid range space. By 2020 high end GPUs will have 20GB at the least. 

We are always going to need more and faster memory, and storage. We will always need faster/more powerful CPU's and GPU's. The only end is when we can not possibly make things any faster, but that is not going to happen for a long long time.

Playing Horizon on a standard ps4 and I can see why most people think 8gb is enough.  And it looks much better on a Pro which is crazy to think.  

 

I'd not be willing to shell out hundreds of $ more to make an already beautiful title look or run a bit better.



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Conina on 01 March 2017
antigin said:

Oh god, I have bought 1080 a week ago. Just waisted 200 euros.

Can't you give it back?



KBG29 on 01 March 2017
Kerotan said:
KBG29 said:

Yeah, I think it is pretty histarical seeing people think that the current consoles are fine, and we don't need much more RAM. The only reason we don't see more is because SSD is not the standard, and the consoles are so limited. I can't see PS5 having less than 32GB if it comes out in 2019, and much more if it arrives later. I think realisticly we will see a 16GB 4K PS4 model in 2019, and a PS5 with at least 64GB of RAM in 2024. Once consoles make their next leap, and SSD is the standard, I have no doubt, 64GB and 128GB PCs will be a normal thing in the mid range space. By 2020 high end GPUs will have 20GB at the least. 

We are always going to need more and faster memory, and storage. We will always need faster/more powerful CPU's and GPU's. The only end is when we can not possibly make things any faster, but that is not going to happen for a long long time.

Playing Horizon on a standard ps4 and I can see why most people think 8gb is enough.  And it looks much better on a Pro which is crazy to think.  

 

I'd not be willing to shell out hundreds of $ more to make an already beautiful title look or run a bit better.

That is why on the console side, I think they should keep the PS4 tech around for one more revision, and let those that want PS4 games in true 4K and 60fps have it. Then unleash the PS5 later, and have a massive leap which will get people excited about the future again. If PS5 comes in 2019 with 16GB of RAM, and Zen + Vega level chips, no one will be lown away, and only the deep core gamers will buy into it. 

After 10 hours of Horizan I actually have exactly the opposite feeling though. I see all the haze down in the valley, or in the distant landscape, and think we need more RAM. I am playing on a PS4 Pro and Z9D, and I still ee massive room for improvement.



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Chazore on 01 March 2017

We've gone from the GPU price drops to talking about console's current RAM capacity...

Anyway, I'm not all that convinced to go for the 1080ti, not at that price. The 1080 being reduced by a bit isn't doing much for me either, which leaves me to wait and see what vega does and how much AMD sell them for.



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thismeintiel on 01 March 2017
Pemalite said:
QUAKECore89 said:

Yeah, and i think i heard Volta would feature HBM(HBM3 maybe?) and fully FP16 support.

Pascal has full FP16 support. So does Maxwell. So FP16 in Volta is a given.

HBM2 is what Volta will use as per the roadmaps and leaked information that we have currently... Plus HBM 3 will not be ready for mass production untill 2020. - By 2020, Volta will be several years old.

GDDR5X and there is a possibility of GDDR6 for the mid-range and mainstream with Volta. Low-end will continue to use DDR3, we may even see a shift to DDR4.

Does that mean AMD will be making a little bit of money off of each Volta, since they made HBM?



 

Kerotan on 01 March 2017
KBG29 said:
Kerotan said:

Playing Horizon on a standard ps4 and I can see why most people think 8gb is enough.  And it looks much better on a Pro which is crazy to think.  

 

I'd not be willing to shell out hundreds of $ more to make an already beautiful title look or run a bit better.

That is why on the console side, I think they should keep the PS4 tech around for one more revision, and let those that want PS4 games in true 4K and 60fps have it. Then unleash the PS5 later, and have a massive leap which will get people excited about the future again. If PS5 comes in 2019 with 16GB of RAM, and Zen + Vega level chips, no one will be lown away, and only the deep core gamers will buy into it. 

After 10 hours of Horizan I actually have exactly the opposite feeling though. I see all the haze down in the valley, or in the distant landscape, and think we need more RAM. I am playing on a PS4 Pro and Z9D, and I still ee massive room for improvement.

See that's the thing.  I don't play games and start staring at the distance far away. But I understand there's a certain demographic that care about these things and that's what pc is good at.  Satisfying these people for a premium price.  

 

BTW I see some people are unhappy this conversation drifted off topic so I'll just highlight that you the pc fan brought up consoles.  Not that I've a problem.  Just pointing it out incase any false accusations fly my way!