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Ruler said:
Soundwave said:

There isn't going to be a World War III, and least of all it wouldn't over freaking Syria.

Even Russia does not give that much of a fuck, they are saber rattling because they are angry that they feel the US enabled pro-Europe factions in Ukraine, the US is upset that they invaded Crimea and put sanctions on Russia that really have hurt them. So they are trying to give the US a headache by making it tough on them in Syria. 

Russia can huff and puff a lot but in reality, they are no where near the military power the US is

And compartively are a much poorer country than the US. A World War would bankrupt Russia.

So why they are in syria in the first place? No one excepted them to be there after getting sanctioned but funny how fast things can change? The military budgets you show are in US Dollars, but Russia pays its soldiers in rubles and builds its own weapons in rubles.

Those 60 billion $ are alot more eqpipment in their currency, its probably equal in quality and quantity to around 200 billion $ of what the US pays for its troops as Russia spends 5.4% of its GDP PPP on military.  China has probably 400 Billion PPP dollars if you look at their 1.9% of their GDP, and same story they also build all of their weapons by themselves. 

Also what would the US miliatry might matter if your carriers get hit by a nuclear bomb explain that to me.

Because Assad provides Russia with airbases and regional access that Russia likes. So they obviously would prefer to keep Assad in power. 

Russia will never go to war with the US, they are not stupid, their country would get destroyed. If there was going to be a war there would have been one in the 1960s, and all the crying millenials should maybe realize the 60s was 1000000x more dangerous of a world to live in than today. 

Today, there's too many wealthy, powerful Russian capitalists who have no incentive to return to a Cold War situation where their finances are locked only into Russia. These people have vacation houses in Florida and New York and London and kids studying over there, and Ferraris and Bentleys, and companies, and they are well tied in to the Russian politcal structure. 

War in the modern geopolitical context doesn't benefit anyone. It's one thing to go after a bunch of jihadis in caves, but country vs. country conflicts are going to become more and more rare. 

China would not side with Russia in a real war vs. the US either ... the US buys too many Chinese made goods, they're not going to attack their biggest market, they would cripple their own economy in the process. 



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I think after two world wars started by men, the third should be a womans doing. And the first female US president it'd be. Man, women really have accomplished a lot in the last few decades.



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Soundwave said:

There isn't going to be a World War III, and least of all it wouldn't over freaking Syria.

Even Russia does not give that much of a fuck, they are saber rattling because they are angry that they feel the US enabled pro-Europe factions in Ukraine, the US is upset that they invaded Crimea and put sanctions on Russia that really have hurt them. So they are trying to give the US a headache by making it tough on them in Syria. 

Russia can huff and puff a lot but in reality, they are no where near the military power the US is

And compartively are a much poorer country than the US. A World War would bankrupt Russia.

Sounds like a plan.



I think Trump only wants to prepare Americans already for how he will be Putin's puppet if he wins. Trump as president would be really the biggest dream which could ever come true for Putin and his friends



Soundwave said:
Ruler said:

So why they are in syria in the first place? No one excepted them to be there after getting sanctioned but funny how fast things can change? The military budgets you show are in US Dollars, but Russia pays its soldiers in rubles and builds its own weapons in rubles.

Those 60 billion $ are alot more eqpipment in their currency, its probably equal in quality and quantity to around 200 billion $ of what the US pays for its troops as Russia spends 5.4% of its GDP PPP on military.  China has probably 400 Billion PPP dollars if you look at their 1.9% of their GDP, and same story they also build all of their weapons by themselves. 

Also what would the US miliatry might matter if your carriers get hit by a nuclear bomb explain that to me.

Because Assad provides Russia with airbases and regional access that Russia likes. So they obviously would prefer to keep Assad in power. 

Russia will never go to war with the US, they are not stupid, their country would get destroyed. If there was going to be a war there would have been one in the 1960s, and all the crying millenials should maybe realize the 60s was 1000000x more dangerous of a world to live in than today. 

Today, there's too many wealthy, powerful Russian capitalists who have no incentive to return to a Cold War situation where their finances are locked only into Russia. These people have vacation houses in Florida and New York and London and kids studying over there, and Ferraris and Bentleys, and companies, and they are well tied in to the Russian politcal structure. 

War in the modern geopolitical context doesn't benefit anyone. It's one thing to go after a bunch of jihadis in caves, but country vs. country conflicts are going to become more and more rare. 

China would not side with Russia in a real war vs. the US either ... the US buys too many Chinese made goods, they're not going to attack their biggest market, they would cripple their own economy in the process. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html



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method114 said:
spurgeonryan said:
I am still at a loss for why Syria is such a big deal.

WW3?

Despite Russia being a little rough around the edges, I doubt they just want a world war over nothing.

What is to gain?

Russia doesn't wasn Assaad to be taken down. For some reason we are hell bent on removing Asaad. I don't understand it really and I wish we would just leave the ME. We are just going from country to country bombing and killing so many people.

Yeah both countries instead of fighting Daesh are fighting the government or rebels and this allows Daesh to group in strength like an ignored fungus. America and Russia need to stop their agendas deal with Deash get out and let the middle easterners decide their own fate through protest or bloody war. A country is a country because it has autonomy. Let the middle east be autonomous



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Soundwave said:
Ruler said:

So why they are in syria in the first place? No one excepted them to be there after getting sanctioned but funny how fast things can change? The military budgets you show are in US Dollars, but Russia pays its soldiers in rubles and builds its own weapons in rubles.

Those 60 billion $ are alot more eqpipment in their currency, its probably equal in quality and quantity to around 200 billion $ of what the US pays for its troops as Russia spends 5.4% of its GDP PPP on military.  China has probably 400 Billion PPP dollars if you look at their 1.9% of their GDP, and same story they also build all of their weapons by themselves. 

Also what would the US miliatry might matter if your carriers get hit by a nuclear bomb explain that to me.

Because Assad provides Russia with airbases and regional access that Russia likes. So they obviously would prefer to keep Assad in power. 

Russia will never go to war with the US, they are not stupid, their country would get destroyed. If there was going to be a war there would have been one in the 1960s, and all the crying millenials should maybe realize the 60s was 1000000x more dangerous of a world to live in than today. 

Today, there's too many wealthy, powerful Russian capitalists who have no incentive to return to a Cold War situation where their finances are locked only into Russia. These people have vacation houses in Florida and New York and London and kids studying over there, and Ferraris and Bentleys, and companies, and they are well tied in to the Russian politcal structure. 

War in the modern geopolitical context doesn't benefit anyone. It's one thing to go after a bunch of jihadis in caves, but country vs. country conflicts are going to become more and more rare. 

China would not side with Russia in a real war vs. the US either ... the US buys too many Chinese made goods, they're not going to attack their biggest market, they would cripple their own economy in the process. 

Both Of them are idots. Screw USA and Russia causing problems in the middle east and creating terrorists left and right causing problems for the whole of Asia. Because of your stupidity my country and a lot of other countries suffer



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I do hope that after all the war crimes of USA regime, this fascist country will be blasted into oblivion.



spurgeonryan said:
I am still at a loss for why Syria is such a big deal.

WW3?

Despite Russia being a little rough around the edges, I doubt they just want a world war over nothing.

What is to gain?

Syria used to be an amazing country. all of my relatives who went there before it went to trash said it was comparable to the middle income countries of europe.

 

Also, Syria is the key to many issues. refugees, migration, isis, etc. if we didn't pay attention  to it things would go uglier than they already are 



 

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StarOcean said:
Both of these fuckers gotta stop using scare tactics. Neither of them will or are capable of causing WW3. Could they help lead up to that point in the future? Sure. But them causing it? Nah.

Yeah that's the thing though, if Hillary wins you're going to have Trump blaming her and the Americans who didn't vote for him every time a puppy dies.

Like obviously we're on the way to the third world war.... it's going to happen at some stage, it could be tomorrow it could be 100 years from now, but her 4/8 years as presidency will have a part in the time which leads up to that point, because that is how time functions, it goes forwards and all the events which have happened have led to where we are right this second.

I read this as "Trump aware how time functions"



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