Soundwave said:
Why is liberalization such a bad thing? There's no 'movement' needed for it, it's simply the natural evolution of reasoned thought. Yes we don't treat women and minorities like second/third class citizens anymore. That's a good thing. If the entire world was liberalized it would be a great thing (and it will be eventually, you cannot live in the 18th/19th century forever, sorry Saudi Arabia and etc.). Sure there is always a balance to be had and there are random nuts who go to far to the left, but by and large we live in a better society today. Hell, even for me in my 30s, I look at kids today and find in some cases at least they're far more enlightened about things than my generation was in high school in the late 90s. If we had an openly gay student at school, that kid would've been bullied unmercifully, probably even physically beaten up, and certainly would have next to no shot at being embraced by the school community. Even if you disagreed with that behavior you would shut up and not say anything because it wouldn't be popular to do so. But today I look at kids and this is much less of an issue and treating someone like that today you would encounter big push back. Which is good. |
It's as if you didn't read my post or heard much of Sam Harris on the subject. Well, actually I concentrated on defining what I understand to be Cultural Marxism and not address everything what's wrong with it.
What's wrong with liberalization you ask (you mean as in enacting liberal policies in society?).
"Yes we don't treat women and minorities like second/third class citizens anymore" if reality was that straightforward then it wouldn't be so bad.
But it's not. It's the consequences from these policies. It's the paradoxes, the hypocrisy. The injustice and unfair treatment that follows.
Some examples, and Harris touches on some of these too:
It's bad when liberals are more upset when an ethnic citizen says a racial slur than they are upset about an immigrant beating up a citizen youth.
It's bad that liberals spend so much more energy to crack down on hate speech on the internet than they do on the hate speech in our mosques.
It's bad when liberals are more concerned about how Western couples share their time spent with their children than they are concerned about members of other cultures being violent towards their partners.
It's bad when liberals create discrimination when they try to battle discrimination (like university quotas, we've tried them in Sweden too).
It's bad with the erroneous assumption that immigrants, women and LGBT-people are always the weak part and the vulnerable. It just goes so wrong.
The consequenses are severe. The left always trivializes and misrepresents, "Your privilege is taken away", as if it's only about banal, symbolic issues. No, it's real things. It's not just that tax payers have less money left in their pockets for feeding the migrant waves which you can just shrug off by thinking they are still the wealthiest people on the earth. No, there is real suffering as a consequence.
How a young individual can have his emotional life, confidence and future destroyed by being beaten up by foreigners and then have the whole adult world turn its back and accuse him of being racist and going at length to understand the perpetrator's all imagined frustrations and marginalization and then explain away the violations.
Men losing custody of their children because the family courts are so politicized that they assume the woman always tells the truth and the man is always guilty. I have a colleague who spent $60,000 Euro in court to fight for the custody of his son after a divorse and yet the outcome was that he is forbidden to meet the child (who is now almost 15). There are thousands of these testimonies in Sweden but they are immediately dismissed and written off by media and social authorities who assume they're just bitter complaining privileged white men before they even bother to hear their story (admit it, you assume it too. I do, I do it automatically because a person just cannot withstand all the years of brainwash).