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Sadley the market deems smartphones as god like devices which they are all willing to go dish out $800+ every two years for, but they are disgusted by the idea of a $500 console or a $400 handheld.

Unfortunatly people see these devices as the "proper" place for web browsing, socializing, gaming, etc., and have shoved consoles aside as simple toys.

Personally, I see the me too slab phones as the most useless devices in the history of electronics. I have never spent actual money on one outside of the Xperia Play, because I absolutly hate them. The last two I have used rewards points to buy, and the one before that was a gift, because the Vita with Skype was "Not a real Phone".

Somehow Sony and Microsoft have to conveince more than just me, that shopping, paying bills, watching TV, making videos, editing pictures, buying stocks, socilizing, and playing games are all acceptable activities on consoles. Then we may actually be able to get home computers and mobile companion devices, that are higher price, and better value. But, until that becomes the norm, we will have underpowered consoles, a dieing handheld market, a broken PC market, and an over priced and extreamly limited function mobile market.



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I dunno, I can't complain at the moment.

I was using a Windows Phone for the past 3 years and I love my 7 Plus so far. You don't know true hell until you see the Windows App Store. I was using my Lumias strictly for calling, music and really poor web browsing. In fact my Lumia 930 is still yet to receive the Windows Phone 10 update in Australia. I guess MS have given up on their phones, so I decided to give up too.

I'm guessing for everyone that's been using an iPhone for the past 3 years that this phone isn't anything special?



2 Nexus 6P phones for the same price and you'd have 4x the phone between the two.

 

I get a 6S from work free to complement my personal 6P :D

 

People still think iPhones are fashionable and nothing more.  People still buy them for no other purpose than to display  in public as if it means something.  Just like people who still think their BMWs are the shit when a CTS-V destroys it in every category.

You average lower class debt drowning keep up with the Jones types still think yapping on their phones and driving makes them high society as if it's still 1980 or something.  Hilarious.



According to early reviews the Sony Xperia XZ is inferior to other 2016 flagship smartphones.

The Xperia XZ costs 700 € (and as usual only few people will buy Sony's top model), the superior iPhone 7 starts at 760 €.

Which company is the bigger joke in smartphone business, Sony or Apple?

Side note: I bought an iPhone SE last week for 400 €, my first smartphone.



I hate videos where someone is explaining or talking about a certain topic and all I see is him or someone else playing a video game which has nothing to do with the topic. Is this lazy editing or what is this shit about?

So, I clicked on another rant video which is probably not someone playing a videogame while talking about apple...

Oh, wait.. it's watchdogs... damn youtube.



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That's just the going rate for smartphones in that category. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, etc.

Ranting about it is like complaining about the price of an Audi A8 when you could buy a Fiat 500 for a fraction of the price. Or complaining about the price of a Fiat 500 when you could buy a Vespa for a fraction of that.

Furthermore, a console and a smartphone don't even cover the same functions unless you primarily bought a high end model to play games on it, which would show pretty misplaced priorities given that the phone is generally used a communication and productivity device and a console is almost exclusively designed for entertainment.

Lastly, sales reflect the market for each respective device. Apple sold over 231 million iPhones in 2015 alone. Let that sink in. The wildly successful PS4 sold 43.4 million units since 2013 by comparison.



greenmedic88 said:
That's just the going rate for smartphones in that category. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, etc.

Ranting about it is like complaining about the price of an Audi A8 when you could buy a Fiat 500 for a fraction of the price. Or complaining about the price of a Fiat 500 when you could buy a Vespa for a fraction of that.

Furthermore, a console and a smartphone don't even cover the same functions unless you primarily bought a high end model to play games on it, which would show pretty misplaced priorities given that the phone is generally used a communication and productivity device and a console is almost exclusively designed for entertainment.

Lastly, sales reflect the market for each respective device. Apple sold over 231 million iPhones in 2015 alone. Let that sink in. The wildly successful PS4 sold 43.4 million units since 2013 by comparison.

Or maybe it's like a CTS-V vs an A8.  Better in everything, costs less, easier to maintain. Badge isn't as snobby, that's important to some people. Paying more for less like it's something to brag about.



torok said:
DonFerrari said:

The problem is that even on jack you could only use apple phone and now without jack they are selling very expensive adapters and special phones, so it's a problem. Besides, I would rather have a more robust and longer batery life instead of a thinnier phone.

I think that the biggest problems is that Apple insists on the Lightning port, while all other phones will use USB type-C. We will end up with a mess. Removing the jack is a good move, replacing it with their proprietary nonsense is stupid. Mind that removing the jack you get space that could go for more mAH.

I'm not into buying Apple stuff just because of their pricing and proprietary nonsense. I'm also not much into Android high-ends, because current premium tier mid-end devices actually do a lot of stuff, unless you plan to game on them, so I'm not paying more just for crappy mobile games. I have a Moto X Play and for a phone that costed less than half most flagships (1/3 of an iPhone), it's fluid, camera is amazing and I even got a massive battery. I would say that a good deal now would be the Moto Z Play instead of any of the current flagships. Even the 64GB model of the Moto G4 costs only 300 on Amazon. That's a steal.

Yes we are totally in the same page. Proprietary shit that is exorbitantly expensive isn't a good thing (even Memory Stick for Vita is well hated, even though it's quite cheap compared to this joke on earphones).

I paid around 200-250 USD in brazil for my Sony M4 while iPhone 6 was around 1k USD because I can't justify paying more than 400 USD on any phone because it is something that we change every 2 years or less, battery always suck and die off, OS doesn't update anymore, scratches, etc. So since M4 would do everything I needed I didn't have to look much further in expending more.

Imaginedvl said:

Clearly for the price you get more juice of this Play Station Four Pro but the main issue with the Play Station Four Pro tho is that it is freaking hot in the pocket! :)

 

How can you even compare the 2? :)

I'm more curious on how did you put PS4 Pro on your pocket with all cables on it. How big are your paints?

KBG29 said:

Sadley the market deems smartphones as god like devices which they are all willing to go dish out $800+ every two years for, but they are disgusted by the idea of a $500 console or a $400 handheld.

Unfortunatly people see these devices as the "proper" place for web browsing, socializing, gaming, etc., and have shoved consoles aside as simple toys.

Personally, I see the me too slab phones as the most useless devices in the history of electronics. I have never spent actual money on one outside of the Xperia Play, because I absolutly hate them. The last two I have used rewards points to buy, and the one before that was a gift, because the Vita with Skype was "Not a real Phone".

Somehow Sony and Microsoft have to conveince more than just me, that shopping, paying bills, watching TV, making videos, editing pictures, buying stocks, socilizing, and playing games are all acceptable activities on consoles. Then we may actually be able to get home computers and mobile companion devices, that are higher price, and better value. But, until that becomes the norm, we will have underpowered consoles, a dieing handheld market, a broken PC market, and an over priced and extreamly limited function mobile market.

I also can't understand this shit... paying 800 USD every year for a phone (because a lot of people do upgrade every 6mo to 1y) while complaining about the price of a console at 400 that you change every 5y (for me the price of SW is a much bigger hassle) and only wanting to buy when it reaches 200.

exdeath said:
greenmedic88 said:
That's just the going rate for smartphones in that category. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, etc.

Ranting about it is like complaining about the price of an Audi A8 when you could buy a Fiat 500 for a fraction of the price. Or complaining about the price of a Fiat 500 when you could buy a Vespa for a fraction of that.

Furthermore, a console and a smartphone don't even cover the same functions unless you primarily bought a high end model to play games on it, which would show pretty misplaced priorities given that the phone is generally used a communication and productivity device and a console is almost exclusively designed for entertainment.

Lastly, sales reflect the market for each respective device. Apple sold over 231 million iPhones in 2015 alone. Let that sink in. The wildly successful PS4 sold 43.4 million units since 2013 by comparison.

Or maybe it's like a CTS-V vs an A8.  Better in everything, costs less, easier to maintain. Badge isn't as snobby, that's important to some people. Paying more for less like it's something to brag about.

Yep, the guy makes the comparison be like why pay 500k for ferrari if a golf can get you there for 20k. When in reality is why pay a lot more for basically the same thing.



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ohmylanta1003 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

http://fortune.com/2016/09/20/iphone-7-cost/

No it is not a lie. I said making one, as in building it cost $5 to $10.

The components, is what adds up to $219.80

I don't know what country your from, but the way you said it, most people would assume that you meant the cost to purchase the components. Don't act like the guy that responded to you is stupid. He only answered the question like he should have. Also, you never provided a source. Also, who the hell cares about how much money it costs to literally put together? Why does that mean anything?

 

If you want to discuss about semantics and the logic concerned with meaning, then lets discuss about that through PM.

Let me clear something up with you now though. Nobody responded to me, but he did said my statement was a lie to the guy that asked the question, which I then later proved it to be correct. Now don't assume what I said to him to be negative, but right now you're the one being combative. I don't recommend it, but if you want to continue you know where to go.



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If you do not like the changes, you do not have to buy the new iPhone 7.
The wireless headphones are an additional cost that drives the high price of the iPhone 7 up higher.
The wireless headphones can easily get lost at the gym, at the office, around the house, etc.
The wireless headphones being small can easily be swallowed by a small child or a cat or dog.