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exclusive_console said:
Meh I am interested in 1080P mode. Not interested in 4K HDR

You'll get an overall better image quality, supersampled 1080p, better shadows, better AA, better draw distances, better framerates, added detail etc. There's plenty of reasons to buy the Pro even if you only have a 1080p TV.



 

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Really a shame that theres no 4k Blu Ray player. 4k streaming is heavily compressed to save bandwidth, Blu rays are much nicer.



Mr Puggsly said:
Ah, so numerous games shown aren't actually running native 4K? I was under the impression everything shown was which seemed hard to believe with the specs and price.

Even the Scorpio will struggle to do 4K with a better GPU.

But you know what the good thing is?  

 

The PS5 and Xb2 gen will likely start with consoles capable of 4k properly which is really good.  

 

Not sure if they'll pull off native 4k 60fps open world games for $400 by 2019/2020 but they'll be impressive all the same.  And if they don't do it,  their mid gen upgrades will. 



Speaking to developers on site, several aspects of the checkerboard technology came into focus. Up until now, we've seen it as a software post-process upscale, but in actual fact, it's one of a number of new custom features backed into the PS4 Pro's GPU and as such comes with zero cost to game developers. We also understand that while it is a hardware feature, game-makers do seem to have a certain level of control - which may perhaps explain why different games exhibit varying levels of artefacting.

To its credit, Sony understands that a certain level of scepticism will persist here and to that end, several Sony developers on site told us that lead architect Mark Cerny will be going into the specifics of the custom hardware features in the next few weeks. Enticingly, we were also told that there was more to the GPU enhancements mentioned than just the checkerboard upscaler, so the details there should be fascinating.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
exclusive_console said:
Meh I am interested in 1080P mode. Not interested in 4K HDR

You'll get an overall better image quality, supersampled 1080p, better shadows, better AA, better draw distances, better framerates, added detail etc. There's plenty of reasons to buy the Pro even if you only have a 1080p TV.

I hope so. If IQ and performance benifits are there with PS4Pro in 1080mode I will be very interested. Shadow of Mordor is one of the games that is getting a patch. Hope there will be a good list of games before launch.



 

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Kerotan said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Ah, so numerous games shown aren't actually running native 4K? I was under the impression everything shown was which seemed hard to believe with the specs and price.

Even the Scorpio will struggle to do 4K with a better GPU.

But you know what the good thing is?  

The PS5 and Xb2 gen will likely start with consoles capable of 4k properly which is really good.  

Not sure if they'll pull off native 4k 60fps open world games for $400 by 2019/2020 but they'll be impressive all the same.  And if they don't do it,  their mid gen upgrades will. 

The PS4 Pro is a great piece of tech for the price, but maybe they're giving the impression its a more capable device than it actually is.



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Impressive. This new upscaling tech they're using sounds like a great solution for the subnative rendering. Also great to hear about older titles like TLOUR aiming high on the box. I might jump for it if money wasn't tight. As it stands I'll probably wait for the PS5 when 4K+HDR screens are cheaper and more mature.



TallSilhouette said:
Impressive. This new upscaling tech they're using sounds like a great solution for the subnative rendering. Also great to hear about older titles like TLOUR aiming high on the box. I might jump for it if money wasn't tight. As it stands I'll probably wait for the PS5 when 4K+HDR screens are cheaper and more mature.

And the good thing about it is it's actual built into the GPU and so it costs nothing in computing power. Sony really know what they're doing.



 

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Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

But you know what the good thing is?  

The PS5 and Xb2 gen will likely start with consoles capable of 4k properly which is really good.  

Not sure if they'll pull off native 4k 60fps open world games for $400 by 2019/2020 but they'll be impressive all the same.  And if they don't do it,  their mid gen upgrades will. 

The PS4 Pro is a great piece of tech for the price, but maybe they're giving the impression its a more capable device than it actually is.

It's specs are out there.  For $400 it's super value and an easy entry point for the mass market to embrace 4k gaming.  High prices were always the detergent but not any more thanks to the Pro.