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dongo8 said:
Soundwave said:

The thing is one of their slides specifically mentions automotive and *gaming* functionality specifically for that CPU config though, so I dunno. 

Probable the chip underclocks in portable mode. 

The chip Nintendo uses may just be a Pascal version of the X1 though since there doesn't seem to be a huge difference in performance from X1 to X2. Maybe by using Pascal architecture and shrinking to 16nm it gives Nintendo enough leeway to run the TX1 level performance at full clock without needing a fan or something. 

I think we also have to keep in mind that there is a high probability that the chip(s) going into the NX is/are most likely custom chips, so while the specs are interesting to look at, they most likely don't match exactly what will be in the NX. I can't wait until we get some official details of the darn thing! Another month or so...jeeeeeeeez

I wanted to wrote that, Nintendo always uses custom chips, in this case most likely custom design of X2.



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Yep 625 Gflops is the same number Ive read other places too.
Maybe the NX will have this when its docked and can use more power, than when its used as a handheld.

Still this means at most it ll be 1/3 of the PS4, in terms of power (when docked and not downclocked).

Pretty powerfull for a handheld. Not that great in terms of a home console.



JRPGfan said:

Yep 625 Gflops is the same number Ive read other places too.
Maybe the NX will have this when its docked and can use more power, than when its used as a handheld.

Still this means at most it ll be 1/3 of the PS4, in terms of power (when docked and not downclocked).

Pretty powerfull for a handheld. Not that great in terms of a home console.

I'm not a big tech guy. But others said they could put a second Tegra in the dock (overclocked in some form likely).



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
JRPGfan said:

I'm not a big tech guy. But others said they could put a second Tegra in the dock (overclocked in some form likely).

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?



superchunk said:
vivster said:
Good thing that Nintendo always uses high end cutting edge technology or else people might think this is NOT the NX SOC.

This is a relatively low cost and definitely low power solution. That is up Nintendo's ally for its solutions. This will allow Nintendo to keep a small portable form factor while delivering a game console that is capable of pushing the latest gaming tech.

This is not a far-fetched solution.

How is it a low cost solution when it comes from Nvidia?



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JRPGfan said:

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?

Yup, that would be ideal.



JRPGfan said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

I'm not a big tech guy. But others said they could put a second Tegra in the dock (overclocked in some form likely).

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?

That is what some have been saying. It makes sense to me and seems the easiest solution for the lack of console power.



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JEMC said:
Soundwave said:

I'm not saying this is what Nintendo is doing but if their philosophy is to have PS4 ports just at a lower resolution, they then may be forced to have to keep a reasonably powerful CPU, because CPU processing doesn't scale down nearly as well, where for graphics you can do things like reduce the number of pixels that need to be rendered by 1/3 (600p res) or even 1/4 (540p res) for portable play. 

Nintendo said that it wanted to appeal both casuals and core gamers, not that they wanted to get PS4 ports.

They can appeal to "core gamers" by, given that they won't need to develop 2 versions of several games (as always, if they go hybrid), develop new IPs that can appeal to that market like Splatoon or Xenoblade do.

Werix357 said:

speculation based on the many rumors/reports oh there is a hint in the slides.

Below pic is taken from Nvidia slide "sufficient thread count for automotive and gaming applications."

Yes, it has enough power to run games, but that doesn't mean that it's good at it or that it's what it was designed for.

There's a reason why Nvidia has improved the CPU side of the X2 so much compared to the graphics side, and also why they have only shown it in the Drive PX2 platform, that doesn't have to worry about power consumption or heat.

Yeah I get what you're saying but from a business perspective it would be smart to make an SoC that can be used for multiple purposes. CPU'S have always been a weak spot for portable consoles and from what I've read about the PX2 is that the majority of the drive focused stuff is external to the CPU and GPU portion of  the chip



JRPGfan said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

I'm not a big tech guy. But others said they could put a second Tegra in the dock (overclocked in some form likely).

Kinda like when your SLI two GPUs? maybe.

That ll make the NX a b*tch to develope games for though, imo.

On the other hand it not being more powerfull could keep 3rd party away as well.

That would drive up the price of the docking station part though, and probably mean it wont be sold with the handheld.

So like a "199$ handheld NX" and "a 100$ docking station" thats sold seperatly ?

That seems  like the ideal solution, we'll have to see what plans Nintendo has with the NX.



                
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