That's not really savage at all.

You're totally right and it still isn't my intention to say reviewers are wrong as I haven't even played the game

That's why I didn't roll my eyes at the critics but rather at how some VG users seem to be celebrating negative news on "the other side of the fence" even more than celebrating positive news on "their own". I think that's unfortunate and the reason why I visit this site less and less.

6/10 too much space...

No, thats what the publisher does. The publisher pays for the printing of the game, the distribution and the advertising
(note, that they themselves don't necessarely do these jobs, they hire other companies to do them). On top of that they usually finance the developement and due to that more often than not also own the IP.

Sony only did part of that job, but they did the most costly one. So, i can pretty much be very sure that the price had everything to do with the deal.People don't print your game and advertise it without some sort of garantee to cover the risk. And make no mistake, this game was advertised as a triple A game.

So, yes. They are a shadow publisher in this case because they did everything a publisher does except owning the IP (there are rumors they also helped with development aswell but its not clear). There was obviously alot of negotiating on this deal.

But tell you what, feel free to pretend these things aren't obvious and i'm just hating on Sony. I don't really care.

If I know which users you refer to, I don't think there's much to celebrate right now except 10% profits from a mobile game.

Though I guess that's normal in a period of console transitions (unless you're the PS3 and receives new games till the very end).

You're saying that there is nothing between "should be moderated" and "should not be moderated" and you won't complain about anything that does not fall into the "should be moderated" column?  Interesting.  

Look, you can make up all the speculation you want but the the information we have now indicates that Hello Games is the publisher and Sony is the distributor on the PS4.  This isn't rocket science.  That means Hello Games retains control of the IP beyond any limited exclusivity contract they might have signed and the terms of the distribution deal.  Manufacturing and distribution is not publishing.  Advertising deals are not publishing.  It is quite possible for an independent producer to ink deals for these services separately while retaining publication control.

Now, again, if you have anything at all that proves otherwise, I invite you to post it.

http://kotaku.com/no-mans-sky-the-kotaku-review-1785383774

"First I didn't like it, then I did"

It's certainly not going to be for everyone, especially those who were invested in ther game having all the features that it doesn't have. But some people might enjoy the game more if they approach the game in the way this guy did, second time around.  That approach has some appeal to me, but probably not enough for me to be willing to pay for the experience. I would probably get it if  it came to PSN+, but it seems like a game I'd want to play using VR (even if in just cinema mode) and I don't have any plans to get VR.

No.

When you have a community where 50% of the users communicate through threads rather than posts you have an incredibly boring front page that doesn't do anything to attract new users. It doesn't matter if it's several No Man's Sky threads or several Zelda threads on the front page. Both instances limit the variety and diversity in the amount of interests being expressed.

The post below is from the latest Zelda thread. The thread only has 6 posts from 3 different users. Even with such low activity 1 of these 3 users expresses the need to make yet another Zelda thread. Should this be moderated? Not necessarily. But you should be allowed to question why many of these threads aren't merged. This way we wouldn't have such a boring front page scaring potential new users away. Personally, I'd much rather still have eg. the Halo Wars 2 thread on the front page than so many similar eg. Zelda threads with only a handful of comments in each.

Please don't try to make this seem like pokoko (and others) want certain users and opinions moderated. Threads are closed all the time on VGC when there are already similar threads or existing threads suited for the content. In this case several NMS review threads are allowed even though we have a dedicated thread for all NMS reviews and that is actually an exception.

Being a long time user you ought to know this. Please refrain from acting like some users are being oppressed and trying to demonize others. It doesn't suit you.

So, you think an indy studio has the money to ink advertisement and manufacturing deals in the order of the millions. I would like to know who was crazy enough to give them that loan.

There are some things that are obvious. The proof is in their unlikelyness.

But i think this conversation as ran its course. We will have to agree to disagree.

It certainly is not.  Don't be silly.  That would be like saying, "stop being obnoxious or I'll call the police."  You're grossly exaggerating.  Because I find something to be annoying or suggest what I feel is a better way does not mean that I want the original to be moderated.  You're trying to create a false dichotomy and it's very obvious that you're reaching.

Still, it's going to be interesting to see if you practice what you preach.