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pokoko on 17 August 2016
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RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

Changed my mind?  Do you see where I said anything about moderation in this thread?

Well, then there shouldn't have been an issue with this thread to begin with.

You're saying that there is nothing between "should be moderated" and "should not be moderated" and you won't complain about anything that does not fall into the "should be moderated" column?  Interesting.  

Nem said:
pokoko said:

Changed my mind?  Do you see where I said anything about moderation in this thread?

No, that is not what a publisher does, that is what a distributor does.

What are you saying?  That Sony is the super-secret hidden publisher for some reason?  That they secretly own the IP?  Your rationale doesn't even make sense, considering that Sony has published other games that retailed for less than $60.  

No, thats what the publisher does. The publisher pays for the printing of the game, the distribution and the advertising
(note, that they themselves don't necessarely do these jobs, they hire other companies to do them). On top of that they usually finance the developement and due to that more often than not also own the IP.

Sony only did part of that job, but they did the most costly one. So, i can pretty much be very sure that the price had everything to do with the deal.People don't print your game and advertise it without some sort of garantee to cover the risk. And make no mistake, this game was advertised as a triple A game.

So, yes. They are a shadow publisher in this case because they did everything a publisher does except owning the IP (there are rumors they also helped with development aswell but its not clear). There was obviously alot of negotiating on this deal.

But tell you what, feel free to pretend these things aren't obvious and i'm just hating on Sony. I don't really care.

Look, you can make up all the speculation you want but the the information we have now indicates that Hello Games is the publisher and Sony is the distributor on the PS4.  This isn't rocket science.  That means Hello Games retains control of the IP beyond any limited exclusivity contract they might have signed and the terms of the distribution deal.  Manufacturing and distribution is not publishing.  Advertising deals are not publishing.  It is quite possible for an independent producer to ink deals for these services separately while retaining publication control.

Now, again, if you have anything at all that proves otherwise, I invite you to post it.