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SuperNova said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

"His whole attack pattern speaks of someone motivated by frustration and desperation"  .....

You’ve just described why a lot of people turn to religion.

"When a christian man kills someone in a mugging you don't file that under a religiously motivated attack either, do you?"

apples to oranges,

Germany is a predominant Christian country, so your example is way off.

 

 

Yes. And in the sentence immediately after that I explain why this does not seem to be the case with this shooter.

How so? Are you saying religious extremism can not happen within a countrys predominant religion?

The US is predominantly christian, yet they've faced a host of militant christian terror attacks (mostly on abortion clinics). Turkey, Afghanistan and Irak meanwhile, are predominantly muslim countries yet they've been heavily subjected to islamic terrorism. To the point, that a couple of years ago there was scarcely a day in the news when there wasn't a new bombing in Kabul (heck, the last one was 16 hours ago). Before you assume it was all attacks against foreign soldiers, there where a lot of attacks against churches, mosks and markets with no soldiers even present and the attacks continue to this day with no foreign forces in these countries.

My point was that sometimes crimes happen to be committed by religious people even if their religion is incedental to the crime. This seems to be the case here (again, if the shooter was even muslim).

You seem bent on claiming that this was religious terror, when there's very little to support that assumption based on the information we have available. Especially based on the behavior of the shooter.

Please tell me about this host of militant Christian terror attacks. There has been one attack on a Planned Parenthood in recent memory (Colorado Springs), but using that as a comparison to the attacks in the Middle East is just absurd. 



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outlawauron said:
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Please tell me about this host of militant Christian terror attacks. There has been one attack on a Planned Parenthood in recent memory (Colorado Springs), but using that as a comparison to the attacks in the Middle East is just absurd. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism knock yourself out in the United states section. It was much worse in the eighties and nineties, but there have been attacks even in recent memory.

Just to clarify, this conversation was not about christian terrorsim at all. It was just one of many examples of terrorists within the countries predominant religion. There was no comparison going on.

You seem to think I was trying to compare christian terrorism to Islamic  terrorism, wich is not the case. My only point was that christian terrorism exists in predominantly christian countries, and it does.



SuperNova said:
outlawauron said:

Please tell me about this host of militant Christian terror attacks. There has been one attack on a Planned Parenthood in recent memory (Colorado Springs), but using that as a comparison to the attacks in the Middle East is just absurd. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism knock yourself out in the United states section. It was much worse in the eighties and nineties, but there have been attacks even in recent memory.

Just to clarify, this conversation was not about christian terrorsim at all. It was just one of many examples of terrorists within the countries predominant religion. There was no comparison going on.

You seem to think I was trying to compare christian terrorism to Islamic  terrorism, wich is not the case. My only point was that christian terrorism exists in predominantly christian countries, and it does.

here i was hoping to be enlightened, did you even read the link you gave?  There's barely anything there and considering most of the country is christian it's not convincing at all.



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SuperNova said:
outlawauron said:

Please tell me about this host of militant Christian terror attacks. There has been one attack on a Planned Parenthood in recent memory (Colorado Springs), but using that as a comparison to the attacks in the Middle East is just absurd. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism knock yourself out in the United states section. It was much worse in the eighties and nineties, but there have been attacks even in recent memory.

Just to clarify, this conversation was not about christian terrorsim at all. It was just one of many examples of terrorists within the countries predominant religion. There was no comparison going on.

You seem to think I was trying to compare christian terrorism to Islamic  terrorism, wich is not the case. My only point was that christian terrorism exists in predominantly christian countries, and it does.

I misunderstood you then. Reading it, I thought you were going for a comparison by using "a host of" to describe the amount.

That said, the lack of content in that article is about what I expected. From 1996-20015, there wasn't a single attack from an identified "Christian terrorist" in the United States. Domestic terror is just as scary as a foreign group launching or leading an attack in another area.



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outlawauron said:
SuperNova said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism knock yourself out in the United states section. It was much worse in the eighties and nineties, but there have been attacks even in recent memory.

Just to clarify, this conversation was not about christian terrorsim at all. It was just one of many examples of terrorists within the countries predominant religion. There was no comparison going on.

You seem to think I was trying to compare christian terrorism to Islamic  terrorism, wich is not the case. My only point was that christian terrorism exists in predominantly christian countries, and it does.

I misunderstood you then. Reading it, I thought you were going for a comparison by using "a host of" to describe the amount.

That said, the lack of content in that article is about what I expected. From 1996-20015, there wasn't a single attack from an identified "Christian terrorist" in the United States. Domestic terror is just as scary as a foreign group launching or leading an attack in another area.

English is not my fist language, so I might have used the wrong expression. And yeah, I was thinking more of the heyday in the 80s and early 90s when I made that comment in the first place.

Like I said, it was just meant to showcase that it exists at all.

Yeah it is. Germany had to deal with extremist left wing domestic terror throughout the 70s and 80s and it was fucking scary from what I'm told.